Is He Crazy After All?

A big welcome to the new readers from Gateway Pundit, and as always, many thanks to Jim for his link and his support.

All of us who wonder why Kim Jong Il has does some of the bone-headed things he’s done lately have shared a few common assumptions about him as we engaged in this speculative parlor game of ours:

* He is sane, rational, calculating, and reasonably well informed about his foes’ thought processes (some, however, would also argue that Kim is temperamental and impulsive, and therefore prone to emotional, irrational actions).

* He seeks to isolate his people. He knows that he could not withstand comparison to other systems of government, must prevent such comparisons at all costs, and is therefore unwilling to open his economy to the outside world (some believe that trade and aid can coax North Korea out of its isolation, although that view is largely discredited by recent events).

* Somewhat paradoxically, he needs controlled commerce with, and aid from, other countries to provide his regime with income to feed soldiers, pay perks, and keep the machinery of repression running (there is, of course, much disagreement about just how much trade Kim Jong Il will tolerate, and what effect it will have on North Korea’s political system).

* He created this crisis to achieve political or diplomatic advantages (some — and count me in here — think he means to do this by acquiring nukes; others think he just wants the better deal that we’ve stubbornly refused to give him).

* Finally, we’re all assuming that he’s the one calling the shots, and no evidence of which I’m aware seriously suggests otherwise.

But with Kim Jong Il openly threatening to test a nuclear weapon, you have to question how he can rationally expect to do anything but make his own predicament much worse. That’s causing me to reevaluate my assumptions. None of the conventional theories, all of which impute rational and calculating motives and plans to him, makes much more sense than the Chewbacca Defense. Either our assumptions are wrong, or we’re all analyzing this too rationally.


This is the conventional wisdom. Most observers think Kim Jong Il’s motive is extortion; some are willing to pay, while others aren’t. The Chosun Ilbo echoes the conventional wisdom, that this is simple extortion:

If the North goes through with the test, the objective must be to goad the U.S. into coming to bilateral negotiations. Since its declaration in February last year that it is a nuclear power and its missile tests last month proved fruitless, the North is now monkeying around with a more powerful card.

I don’t agree with that, because it should be obvious enough that nuclear extortion won’t accomplish North Korea’s imputed aid-seeking goals. The United States, Japan, and China would only punish North Korea for it, and South Korea would give the North anything it wants just for the asking anyway. This isn’t lost on the Chosun Ilbo, either. The reaction to the missile launches, after all, was the death of the Sunshine policy, a sharp downturn in diplomatic (and possibly economic) relations with China, and a sharply harder line by Japan, which is cooperating with the United States to impose some supposedly dreadful economic sanctions.

What’s more, if Kim Jong Il just wants a better deal, why did he turn down the deal of a lifetime? It’s hard to see how a rational North Korean government could reject a deal so good that one influential Republican staffer in Congress declared it dead on arrival. If Kim Jong Il is rational and aware of his foes’ thought processes, he can’t expect that a nuke test (or threats of a nuke test) will get him aid, benefits, trade, or recognition.

“Barrel of a Gun”

I proposed my own “Barrel of a Gun” theory, but its predictive power is inconclusive at best. That theory is named after North Korea’s most popular political novel, generously provided to me by Oranckay when we met last April in Seoul. The idea is that the missile tests were the equivalent of a ransom note to prove to the North Korean people that Kim Jong Il is strong when in fact he was about to ask for more aid.

Kim has in fact indicated his willingness to accept South Korean aid, but the unexpected severity of the floods just weeks after the missile launch make it more difficult to associate that request with a pre-existing strategy (although the North was already headed for severe food shortages). The launches had the effect of forcing even South Korea to promise to reduce aid (for what that’s worth, which isn’t much). In the end, my theory suffers from the same problem as all the rest of them — it’s already having too many of the wrong effects for any rational actor to continue pursuing it.

Strategic Disengagement

Richardson’s theory of “strategic disengagement,” that the North Koreans are doing this to withdraw from the world and keep their people isolated, makes sense on several levels. In fact, the North Koreans do desperately need to preserve a psychological state of war with the outside world to justify the isolation of the population. Were the people to find out how the other half lives, well, take Andrei Lankov’s word for that. It looks like Richardson’s side of the debate has picked up a new (ex-North Korean?) adherent at the Daily NK:

The Kim Jong Il regime, which already lost its ability to self-reliance, is in a dilemma as to whether it keeps the three survival conditions or weakens the conditions through transaction with the outside community. To Kim Jong Il, relationship from outside is a double-edged sword. In order to breakthrough the deadlock, Kim developed a “˜cooling strategy.’ He cools down the external relationship, periodically, by launching missiles and developing nuclear weapons.

Expected effect of “˜cooling strategy’ includes;

1. The regime is able to gain more stable and safe benefit from cooling strategy than from normal relationship with the outside. Normal economic transaction with the international community would threaten the regime’s tight control over its people and weaken the isolationism.

2. The cooling strategy increases the level of tension and fear among the North Korean public. And therefore popular control becomes more effective. Kim Jong Il learned this from decades of his experience.

3. Kim Jong Il’s hawkish stance against the international community through “˜cooling strategy’ creates a defiant image of him, so firm control over North Korean military can be maintained.

I have some problems with this theory, too, however. First, it assumes that the North Koreans are intentionally cracking a walnut with a sledge hammer. Kim Jong Il is already in complete control of business and other exchanges with this country now. Witness the “Iron Ajumma” episode with Hyundai Asan if you doubt his ability to reduce his economic ties with the outside world without paying a diplomatic price. To control its interaction with the outside world, he need only announce that he is renegotiating the contracts on its own terms.

What of Kim’s profitable “legitimate” trade, such as the Kaesong Industrial Park, or Kumgang Mountain? Why would Kim jeopardize that? After the July missile tests, U.N. Resolution 1695 demanded that all states be “vigilant” about funds they send to the North, and how they’re spent. The benefits of these ventures may not be what we thought them to be, however. Our Treasury Department now says that cigarette counterfeiting is now North Korea’s largest source of forex. Nor are those ventures free of political cost, as I noted here:

In the end, however, the cultural isolation of Kaesong’s hand-picked workers will fail. The workers will eventually take note of the health and prosperity of their southern counterparts, and they will talk about it. And when the regime’s security forces find out, they will do what they did after learning that some members of the nation’s cheerleading squad talked about what they saw in Busan. Kaesong itself will not be immune to that reaction. That means that predictions of explosive growth at Kaesong will prove premature, and that Kaesong will be fortunate to remain what it is now: a small, carefully sealed cash cow for Kim Jong Il’s regime.

Kim could conclude that Kaseong creates more domestic political trouble than it’s worth to him financially. If its main purpose was really sudpolitik, the Uri Party’s abyssimal polling and its beating in recent elections could have convinced a rational actor that the political game was pretty much up, at least as it concerned electoral politics. That would suggest that Kim will shift toward subversion through radical labor and student groups.

The biggest problem I have with the theory is that Kim’s means of isolating himself are also causing the United States to get serious about cutting off Kim Jong Il’s foreign bank accounts, from which his largest sources of external funds come. It’s also reducing the incentive for nations hosting those accounts to resist the U.S. efforts to isolate him. The loss of those accounts threatens the funding that sustains the regime, and which comes from enterprises (lawful and otherwise) in which he has invested much time and money. Why jeopardize them, since they’re (1) profitable, (2) probably essential, and (3) no threat to the regime’s self-imposed isolation? The effect of losing those sources of income would be to increase North Korea’s dependence on China, which has never seemed more displeased with North Korea, to the point of reportedly reducing North Korea’s fuel supply. Doesn’t North Korea depend on Chinese fuel? Maybe not, if you put any credence on this report, or this one. Still, I doubt that Iran, Venezuela, and other arms clients would support Kim Jong Il if he lost both his Chinese patronage and his access to the global banking system.

The Scott Evil Theory

If rational explanations fail, we should look for irrational ones. Last month, James posted a piece called “Power Maddens, Absolute Power Maddens Absolutely?,” linking to a piece by Jay Homnick in The American Spectator. The executive summary is that perhaps we have overestimated Kim Jong Il’s propensity to act rationally. After all, we are talking about a man who Jasper Becker claims shot his barber over a bad haircut (a haircut that bad must be quite a sight). Jerrold Post, who profiled terrorists, dictators, and various narcissistic megalomaniacs, still finds Kim Jong Il to be an exceptional case:

“One of the most interesting questions about Kim Jong Il is: What does it mean to be the son of God?” says Jerrold Post, a George Washington University psychiatrist and a former psychological profiler for the CIA. “It’s hard enough to succeed a successful father, but it’s quite another thing if the father is elevated to a godlike stature.”

A gratuitous anecdote that I couldn’t resist adding:

In interviews, they were surprisingly kind to the Dear Leader. Sure, he drank too much, cheated on his wife and humiliated his underlings, they told reporters, but he was also smart, funny and hard-working — a man who would make a great Hollywood producer.

Choi told a story that made the Dear Leader seem almost charming: One day, he came for a visit and asked, “What do you think of my physique?”

She hesitated, pondering how to answer such a question when it comes from a short, dumpy dictator known to execute his enemies.

“Small as a midget’s turd, aren’t I?” he said, smiling.

One theme that emerges is a great desire for constant attention and adulation. One wonders how Kim Jong Il reacts to being despised, or ignored. It that woman had spoken the truth, there isn’t much question of how it would have ended for her. We speak here of a man who is capable glib charm, but lacks ordinary psychological restraint. It’s also very likely that Kim Jong Il has a ferocious temper, and that that temper is actually setting North Korea’s security policy. Dr. Post, who is after all a medical professional, has a diferent diagnosis. It follows a long discussion of Kim’s upbringing, one that redefines the word “dysfunctional:”

All this family drama and trauma could drive a man crazy. And Jerrold Post, the GWU professor and former CIA psychiatrist, believes that the Dear Leader has a serious mental illness.

“He has the core characteristics of the most dangerous personality disorder, malignant narcissism,” Post theorized in a recent psychological profile.

The disorder is characterized by self-absorption, an inability to empathize, a lack of conscience, paranoia and “unconstrained aggression.”

The Dear Leader, Post concluded, “will use whatever aggression is necessary, without qualm of conscience, be it to eliminate an individual or to strike out at a particular group.”

The Wikipedia entry on malignant narcissism suggests that we can expect more dangerously impulsive, irrational behavior:

Otto Kernberg described malignant narcissism as a syndrome characterized by a narcissistic personality disorder (NPD), antisocial features, paranoid traits, and ego-syntonic aggression. Some also may find an[] abscence of conscience, a psychological need for power, and a sense of importance (grandiosity). Pollock wrote: “The malignant narcissist is presented as pathologically grandiose, lacking in conscience and behavioral regulation with characteristic demonstrations of joyful cruelty and sadism.”[1] Malignant narcissism is considered part of the spectrum of pathological narcissism, which ranges from the Cleckley’s antisocial character (the today’s psychopath) at the high end of severity, to malignant narcissism, to NPD at the low end.

Kernberg wrote that malignant narcissism can be differentiated from psychopathy because of the malignant narcissists’ capacity to internalize “both aggressive and idealized superego precursors, leading to the idealization of the aggressive, sadistic features of the pathological grandiose self of these patients.”[2] According to Kernberg, the psychopaths’ paranoid stance against external influences makes them unwilling to internalize even the values of the “aggressor”, while malignant narcissists “have the capacity to admire powerful people, and can depend on sadistic and powerful but reli[a]ble parental images.” Malignant narcissists, in contrast to psychopaths, are also said of being capable to develop “some identification with other powerful idealized figures as part of a cohesive “gang” … which permits at least some loyalty and good object relations to be internalized.”

Malignant narcissism is highlighted as a key area when it comes to the study of mass, sexual and serial murder.

Some, but not all, of the characteristics associated with the related diagnosis of “psychopathy” also seem consistent with what we know of Kim Jong Il, or are worth contrasting to the imperfect information we have. Here’s the actual test used by psychologists today, known as the Hare Psychopathy Checklist. Values in brackets are mine.

This is a clinical rating scale with 20 items. Each of the items in the PCL-R is scored on a three-point (0, 1, 2) scale according to specific criteria through file information and a semi-structured interview. A value of 0 is assigned if the item does not apply, 1 if it applies somewhat, and 2 if it fully applies. The items are as follows:

Glibness/superficial charm [2]
Grandiose sense of self-worth [2]
Need for stimulation/proneness to boredom [?]
Pathological lying [1]
Cunning/manipulative [1]
Lack of remorse or guilt [2]
Shallow affect [?]
Callous/lack of empathy [2]
Parasitic lifestyle [2]
Poor behavioral controls [1, although it will be a “2” if he tests a nuke.]
Promiscuous sexual behavior [2]
Early behavioral problems [?]
Lack of realistic, long-term goals [an excellent question]
Impulsivity [2]
Irresponsibility [1]
Failure to accept responsibility for own actions [1]
Many short-term marital relationships [2]
Juvenile delinquency [?]
Revocation of conditional release [n/a]
Criminal versatility [2]
The items are then summed in order to obtain a total score. The cutoff for psychopathy is 30 points or greater (25 in some studies).

I put him at 23, just below the cutoff, but (1) I’m operating with incomplete information, and more importantly, (2) I’m a lawyer, not a psychologist. Although this is definitely not a delusional, wacky sort of madness, it’s scary stuff indeed for those who had believed Kim Jong Il incapable of any number of destructive acts that would also mean the end of his regime, and his life. Madness is a matter of degree, of course, but irrational men are not as easily deterred.


  1. My thoughts on Kim were that he’s…

    …a sociopath (a.k.a. psychopath): A person with an antisocial personality disorder, manifested in aggressive, perverted, criminal, or amoral behavior without empathy or remorse. . . . More of the profile:

    Characteristics of the profile:

    1. Glibness/Superficial Charm
    2. Manipulative and Conning
    3. Grandiose Sense of Self
    4. Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
    5. Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
    6. Need for Stimulation
    7. Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
    8. Callousness/Lack of Empathy
    9. Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
    10. Irresponsibility/Unreliability
    11. Shallow Emotions
    12. Pathological Lying
    13. Incapacity for Love
    14. Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
    15. Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency

    Realistically we cannot know for sure about all of the conditions above, but Kim Jong-il does appear to exhibit most of these traits to a greater or lesser extent. Of course so does much of Hollywood, which may explain Kim’s affinity (although it’s important to note that there are no known death camps in Hollywood).

    I’m not sure sociopaths who made bad choices are any more crazy than normal people who are usually sane but make bad choices. We’d like to think he’s a nutjob – who else could do what he does? – but I doubt it makes it true.


  2. Kim Jong Il has what he has, and no one is going to take it away. There will be no unification in his life time. He has no where to step down too. Also no war with the south. He can\’t win as long as the U.S. is there. If the U.S. left there would be a possable take over. Call him crazy if it helps you deal with him. But think, if you were him, knowing only what he knows, what would you do?


  3. That is the way I’ve always analyzed it, but now, I question just how rational his actions are. His recent actions make so little sense from any rational perspective that “mirror imaging” KJI as rational may be overrated as a predictor. Fwiw, I think one should periodically question one’s own assumptions.

    So, to answer your question, if I were Kim Jong Il, I wouldn’t start a war, but then again, I wouldn’t have launched those missiles, and I’d also try to appease my subjects by making it a lot easier for them to survive.


  4. I think we can get too lost in trying to decide whether this or that is rational and even in trying to isolate primary causes in the NK thinking. Much of this overlaps.

    Juche really is the key to NK. Throughout its history, it has had a habit of taking what it could get from even its closest allies, but with a strong habit of maintaining as much isolation as possible. It kept a close watch on N. Koreans who went abroad – even if they went to Moscow or a communist block nation. This is just one example among many large and small ones to illustrate my point.

    Shooting missiles and testing nukes fits this mentality as well.

    Looking back at the history of NK before the 1990s, what would you really have expected to see if you imagined the North backed into a corner?

    Would you have expected it to reform and open up even in times of desperation?

    Or, would you have expected North Korea to try to force others to bend to its will through outrageous acts?

    The 1990s should have taught us even better why missile tests and nuke tests make sense to the North because I firmly believe it taught Pyongyang to stick to its guns.

    I believe in the great collapse and famine of the 1990s North Korea learned it could survive just about anything.

    So, I am not suprised at all to see Pyongyang saying, “Fuck all of you bastards!!” with its missile and coming nuke test.

    And it really is a way for the North to try to gain concessions – even if we all know doing such things will cause it more pain – in the short run and possibly long term too.

    These actions by the North are designed as an attempt to put pressure on the outsiders.

    There are also designed to prove to the outsiders the North’s will is unbreakable.

    It really is exactly the kind of thing we should have expected from the North.

    It doesn’t matter if it is China putting pressure on Pyongyang or the US. When the North feels pressure, it is going to seek to up the ante. It is going to seek to prove it is strong enough to tell the outsiders to go fuck themselves.

    And it also hopes by doing so, eventually the outsiders will get frustrated and become resigned to the idea that they can do nothing to force NK to change, and the best they can do is to give the North some of what it wants for basically nothing.

    And why shouldn’t the North believe this? Even when it was in the middle of its darkest day, when it would have been easy for the outsiders to kill Pyongyang off for good —- when Pyongyang would have done exactly that to the outsider if the positions were reversed —- Pyongyang saw the outsiders compitulate to it. It has also seen South Korea continue to compitulate to it no matter what. I think we can also say the 1994 agreement taught NK it could act like this and eventually get some of what it wants anyway.

    Did you guys ever see the movie Usual Suspects?

    When guy who turns out to be Kiser Sosae is telling the fable about Sosae…..

    he says some rival gangsters broke into his house and held his wife and only children hostage. When the Kiser came home, he did not give into the rivals. Instead, he shot his own wife and his only children himself, then killed the gangsters.

    That is North Korea’s way – whether it is ratoinal or makes sense to us or not.

    The US sanctions last year hurt the North. It made them uncomfortable. It put them in an uncomfortable sitaution.

    What fits NK’s way of being is to respond to this by screaming to the outsiders, “Fuck you. You think you know me. You think you have me figured out. You think you can make moves to force me to do what you want. Fuck you…”

    And if Pyongyang has to watch 2 million more of its citizens die due as a result, in part, of any new sanctions that come after an ICBM test or a coming nuke test — so much the better for Pyongyang, because then it will convince the outsiders there really is no way to force NK to open up or do what we want.

    By doing a missile test and a nuke test (and more), NK is saying, “Hey, assholes. I’m here. I’m not going away. You think you have me where you want me. Well, watch this…..”

    And, “This is me. You either deal with me, or this is what you get. What can you do to me? I’d kill my own family rather than let you force me into doing something I don’t want….So what can you do to me?”

    And I couldn’t find the quote from Joshua I wanted to fit with this, but I think what we should really be scared about is what comes after the nuke test.

    I believe it is predictable that after such a test has failed to move the outsiders into resigning themselves to North Korea as it is, it will move to killing people.

    It will accept whatever sanctions come, even if those sanctions lead to more mass starvation of its people, and it will move to terrorism as a means of negociation. It will say, “My people are dieing and you won’t give in. So, I’ll kill some of yours.”


  5. Point taken but, he is not worried about the appeasement of his subjects. He is not the ruler of America. We worry about the appeasment of voters. Subjects are called subjects because they are subject to whatever he wishes.
    The missiles are easy to understand. 1. He said he would do it
    2. we didn\’t react as expected. (Clinton)
    3. No option, save face, must launch.
    4. He may have had it blown himself? To prevent what we all fear most, him too, war.
    We had 8 years of retreat mentality from Mr. C.
    We were called paper tigers in the bars and soju shops of anjung-ri.
    Now we are first strike war mongers. But KJI wasn\’t convinced, so he tried the fear game and it almost caused another korean war with a tiger that had blood on it\’s claws.
    The man knows fear now – I hope.
    Small change of subject—-
    I read this over at the Old War Dogs blog—If IDF gets nuked, we should nuke every capital of all muslim countries in that region. WOW!
    Perhaps I should start digging that underground home I want!


  6. I think NK has little fear of war. I think Pyongyang had some level of doubt after 9/11 and before the war in Iraq was a month or two old. Since then, I think Kim Jong Il believes there is next to no chance the US will go to war with it to seek to remove the regime as long as NK doesn’t invade the South.

    If he doesn’t believe that, he should.


  7. Perhaps KJI should receive a higher score on one or two items and possibly a new item or two could be added to the list.

    WRT the need for stimulation and being easily bored, the existence of the pleasure squads rates at least a two as does the constant schedule of “inspections” and on-the-spot guidance of organizations of all kinds, even if he has very little useful understanding of what he is looking at quite a bit of the time. That minimum of two additional points would put him over the top on a 25 point scale.

    WRT juvenal delinquency, do we know for certain that the brother that died in the pool shortly after the Kims moved into Pyongyang was not pushed by a particular party? Maybe he got an early start, which would be worth at least two more points but would deserve more.

    Adding a factor of “has not internalized knowledge of his place in the hierarchy” would give him even more points. This is not the same as feelings of self-importance of the son of god (KIL is/was not a god) in the North, who is an unfunny joke elsewhere. If he knows the actual capability he (the DPRK) has compared to the ROK, the US, or Japan he does not seem to be acting on that knowledge rationally. Contrary to his own propaganda, which he appears to believe, there is no way he or the DPRK would “mercilessly crush” the ROK (even if the ROK lacks some confidence in that assessment) the US, or Japan in any military confrontation or economic endeavor.

    Amazing/amusing is the apparent KJI/northern belief that anyone would want to invade the North, knowing that any country that could invade would “win” (win what?) and then have the joyous task of cleaning up the political equivalent of a toxic waste dump (very dangerous as long as it exists, a constant drain on resources used to contain it, and produces almost nothing of value). The North can/will be cleaned up and made productive, but the expense and time required to do so will be huge. China and the ROK know what they face and are acting accordingly by trying to delay the day when they finally have to pay that bill. Neither Japan nor the US would have any way of gaining anything from control of the North that they would not receive in the course of normal economic relations with a cleaned-up North, or reunited Korea, and a lot to loose both economically and politically from trying to gain control. Russia does not have any obvious reason to care who is in charge in the North, so does not have any incentive to participate directly in any confrontation.

    From the point of view of KJI and the North, a big reason and possibly the only real reason to participate in the “six-party negotiations,” or any other negotiations, is to promote the illusion or delusion that KJI is a peer of the chiefs of state of the governments of the US, China, Japan and Russia in particular. The ROK traitor-puppets do not count because KJI is the legitimate head of state for all of Korea (just ask him or his toadies). Negotiations with the North are essentially the same as negotiations with a mugger: all you can hope for is to negotiate how much you will loose and to reward the mugger. The North does not have anything to offer except empty promises and the prospect of paying for the privilege of talking to a party that will not listen or keep its word.

    Continuing the current efforts to shut down KJI’s criminal enterprises while otherwise applying a little benign neglect may help him go completely over the edge. KJI craves attention and respect (others’ fear), which is a big part of why he continues to engage in his tantrums. How about giving it the respect it is due by ignoring the “midget’s turd” and the Despot’s Private Reserve of Korea, or Desperately Poor Ramshackle Korea, as much as possible? Never mention him/it by name officially or in serious journalism (there may be some still) and always refer to that part of the peninsula that he owns as “North Korea,” “the North,” or something similar. Ridicule and contempt also have their place. A nasty child ignored/ridiculed when he has a tantrum learns pretty quickly that tantrums are unpleasant, do not gain much, and so straightens up. A nasty child that extorts his way or some reward as the result of his efforts will continue do what results in the desired rewards. KJI is delusional and has a dangerous personality disorder. However, he knows how to get what he wants from people unwilling to treat him as he should be treated and/or unwilling to see that they are no more than facilitators who are being used.


  8. WRT the need for stimulation and being easily bored, the existence of the pleasure squads rates at least a two as does the constant schedule of “inspections” and on-the-spot guidance of organizations of all kinds, even if he has very little useful understanding of what he is looking at quite a bit of the time. That minimum of two additional points would put him over the top on a 25 point scale.

    OK, I’ll give you that one. I think that would put him over the top.


  9. re: Dan’s post:

    Kim Jong Il has what he has, and no one is going to take it away. There will be no unification in his life time. He has no where to step down too. Also no war with the south. He can\’t win as long as the U.S. is there. If the U.S. left there would be a possable take over. Call him crazy if it helps you deal with him. But think, if you were him, knowing only what he knows, what would you do?

    but he has buddies in Congo, Venezuela, Cuba…..

    why not go into exile?

    he definitely doesn’t want to end up like Sadaam.


  10. Re; james. \”why not go into exile?\”

    Why should he give-up his rule, his way of life. He has no fear of ending up like Sadaam. He has no fear of the US. Look at what The President has to put up with because of Iraq. The media and the libs have made it impossable to take on another country—and the little fu*k knows it. He is very safe. I don\’t like it—but I don\’t have to like it. What I would like to see happen would be followed by crys of \”warmonger\”. Exile? I would, but he will not.