Comments on: Ghost City: 39.75N, 126.31E http://freekorea.us/2007/02/10/ghost-city-3975n-12631e/ Tue, 22 May 2012 09:51:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: P Elisabeth http://freekorea.us/2007/02/10/ghost-city-3975n-12631e/comment-page-1/#comment-398425 P Elisabeth Mon, 26 Dec 2011 15:34:06 +0000 http://freekorea.us/?p=6467#comment-398425 What could this be...? Is it holes? Just north of Tokchon ghost city.. http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=39.762739++126.308851&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&sspn=12.635315,39.331055&ie=UTF8&ll=39.767364,126.315828&spn=0.002004,0.004801&t=h&z=18 What could this be…? Is it holes?
Just north of Tokchon ghost city..

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=39.762739++126.308851&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&sspn=12.635315,39.331055&ie=UTF8&ll=39.767364,126.315828&spn=0.002004,0.004801&t=h&z=18

]]> By: ayana http://freekorea.us/2007/02/10/ghost-city-3975n-12631e/comment-page-1/#comment-140975 ayana Mon, 27 Jun 2011 12:48:23 +0000 http://freekorea.us/?p=6467#comment-140975 Really horrifying! Really horrifying!

]]> By: Steve C http://freekorea.us/2007/02/10/ghost-city-3975n-12631e/comment-page-1/#comment-73363 Steve C Mon, 28 Jun 2010 07:36:58 +0000 http://freekorea.us/?p=6467#comment-73363 Had a little look about, noticed this: http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=39.762739++126.308851&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&sspn=12.635315,39.331055&ie=UTF8&ll=39.767364,126.315828&spn=0.002004,0.004801&t=h&z=18 Probably a courtyard, the dots could be people. All rather disturbing, looking at North Korea like this. Had a little look about, noticed this: http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=39.762739++126.308851&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&sspn=12.635315,39.331055&ie=UTF8&ll=39.767364,126.315828&spn=0.002004,0.004801&t=h&z=18

Probably a courtyard, the dots could be people. All rather disturbing, looking at North Korea like this.

]]> By: jsternsp http://freekorea.us/2007/02/10/ghost-city-3975n-12631e/comment-page-1/#comment-67842 jsternsp Tue, 07 Jul 2009 14:05:36 +0000 http://freekorea.us/?p=6467#comment-67842 If you look in the hills surrounding the "ghost" city on both sides of the river, you will see numerous grave mounds arranged in a haphazard manner. On the south side of the river I noticed grave mounds on hillsides that seemed to be terraced for agriculture. It seems odd that one would choose to bury someone in an area suitable for growing crops during a famine. Maybe they were desperate or it didn't matter because the city was being abandoned. There are also strange structures in the fields that look like trenches inside a square. (rice paddy?) Some of the trenches are covered in snow and some are not, which means they may be recent work. Why would you be digging up part of a rice paddy during the middle of winter? 39.4544N, 126.1710E. Also what appears to be a prison camp at 39.4504N, 126.1440E. If you look in the hills surrounding the “ghost” city on both sides of the river, you will see numerous grave mounds arranged in a haphazard manner. On the south side of the river I noticed grave mounds on hillsides that seemed to be terraced for agriculture. It seems odd that one would choose to bury someone in an area suitable for growing crops during a famine. Maybe they were desperate or it didn’t matter because the city was being abandoned.

There are also strange structures in the fields that look like trenches inside a square. (rice paddy?) Some of the trenches are covered in snow and some are not, which means they may be recent work. Why would you be digging up part of a rice paddy during the middle of winter? 39.4544N, 126.1710E.

Also what appears to be a prison camp at 39.4504N, 126.1440E.

]]> By: OneFreeKorea » “Famine in North Korea:” An Interactive Review (1 of 3) http://freekorea.us/2007/02/10/ghost-city-3975n-12631e/comment-page-1/#comment-52062 OneFreeKorea » “Famine in North Korea:” An Interactive Review (1 of 3) Thu, 23 Aug 2007 02:23:35 +0000 http://freekorea.us/?p=6467#comment-52062 [...] Let’s return to the problem of using an agricultural economy’s model for an industrial economy, because the concentration of people away from their food sources poses what I’ll call the problem of the “goners.”  In any famine, people wander away from their homes in search of food, but the problem is greatly concentrated for large numbers of people concentrated in factory towns like this one, as opposed to smaller concentrations of people surrounded by other farming areas.  According to Andrew Natsios, “goners” was a grim expression aid workers applied to wandering famine refugees few were likely to survive.  Defector Yomiko Chiba vividly described the arrival of scores of goners in Sinuiju in 1995.  They wandered in from the countryside and began showing up dead on the town’s streets, which concerned local officials.  Chiba was a teacher, so the regime mobilized her and her students to collect and bury cartfulls of goners of all ages and both genders.  Natsios also wrote of having witnessed mass burials of famine victims in unmarked graves and described defector accounts of daily collections of corpses at railroad stations.  [...] [...] Let’s return to the problem of using an agricultural economy’s model for an industrial economy, because the concentration of people away from their food sources poses what I’ll call the problem of the “goners.”  In any famine, people wander away from their homes in search of food, but the problem is greatly concentrated for large numbers of people concentrated in factory towns like this one, as opposed to smaller concentrations of people surrounded by other farming areas.  According to Andrew Natsios, “goners” was a grim expression aid workers applied to wandering famine refugees few were likely to survive.  Defector Yomiko Chiba vividly described the arrival of scores of goners in Sinuiju in 1995.  They wandered in from the countryside and began showing up dead on the town’s streets, which concerned local officials.  Chiba was a teacher, so the regime mobilized her and her students to collect and bury cartfulls of goners of all ages and both genders.  Natsios also wrote of having witnessed mass burials of famine victims in unmarked graves and described defector accounts of daily collections of corpses at railroad stations.  [...]

]]> By: OneFreeKorea » The North Korean Air Force by Google Earth http://freekorea.us/2007/02/10/ghost-city-3975n-12631e/comment-page-1/#comment-42609 OneFreeKorea » The North Korean Air Force by Google Earth Mon, 30 Apr 2007 20:24:50 +0000 http://freekorea.us/?p=6467#comment-42609 [...] [Update:  Welcome Weekly Standard readers.  Please take note of some of the other North Korea Google Earth tours here:  the concentration camps at Camp 22 (of gas chamber infamy) and Camp 16 (the site of a recent mass escape), North Korea’s “ghost cities,” and Kim Jong Il’s palace complex northeast of Pyongyang, which comes with its own “pyramid scheme.”] [...] [...] [Update:  Welcome Weekly Standard readers.  Please take note of some of the other North Korea Google Earth tours here:  the concentration camps at Camp 22 (of gas chamber infamy) and Camp 16 (the site of a recent mass escape), North Korea’s “ghost cities,” and Kim Jong Il’s palace complex northeast of Pyongyang, which comes with its own “pyramid scheme.”] [...]

]]> By: OneFreeKorea » Holocaust Now: Looking Down Into Hell at Camp 22 http://freekorea.us/2007/02/10/ghost-city-3975n-12631e/comment-page-1/#comment-28345 OneFreeKorea » Holocaust Now: Looking Down Into Hell at Camp 22 Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:20:33 +0000 http://freekorea.us/?p=6467#comment-28345 [...] They cannot read foreign newspapers, listen to foreign broadcasts, possess cell phones or radios that can pick up unauthorized broadcasts, express unauthorized opinions, or travel abroad without fear of entering this gate. The state owns everything, including the meager rations they grow, and on which they live. Still, for farmers in North Korea, survival is a little easier than it is for workers in the blighted factory towns where unemployed survivors of the Great Famine still live by stripping the ruins of copper wire. Just the same, one suspects that the farmers know what’s good for them. Most likely, they stay away from the fence, keep their eyes on the soil, and never mention it. [...] [...] They cannot read foreign newspapers, listen to foreign broadcasts, possess cell phones or radios that can pick up unauthorized broadcasts, express unauthorized opinions, or travel abroad without fear of entering this gate. The state owns everything, including the meager rations they grow, and on which they live. Still, for farmers in North Korea, survival is a little easier than it is for workers in the blighted factory towns where unemployed survivors of the Great Famine still live by stripping the ruins of copper wire. Just the same, one suspects that the farmers know what’s good for them. Most likely, they stay away from the fence, keep their eyes on the soil, and never mention it. [...]

]]> By: OneFreeKorea » Holocaust Now: Looking Down Into Hell at Camp 22 http://freekorea.us/2007/02/10/ghost-city-3975n-12631e/comment-page-1/#comment-19962 OneFreeKorea » Holocaust Now: Looking Down Into Hell at Camp 22 Sun, 18 Feb 2007 19:10:18 +0000 http://freekorea.us/?p=6467#comment-19962 [...] They cannot read foreign newspapers, listen to foreign broadcasts, possess cell phones or radios that can pick up unauthorized broadcasts, express unauthorized opinions, or travel abroad without fear of entering this gate. The state owns everything, including the meager rations they grow, and on which they live. Still, for farmers in North Korea, survival is a little easier than it is for workers in the blighted factory towns where unemployed survivors of the Great Famine still live by stripping the ruins of copper wire. Just the same, one suspects that the farmers know what’s good for them.  Most likely, they stay away from the fence, keep their eyes on the soil, and never mention it. [...] [...] They cannot read foreign newspapers, listen to foreign broadcasts, possess cell phones or radios that can pick up unauthorized broadcasts, express unauthorized opinions, or travel abroad without fear of entering this gate. The state owns everything, including the meager rations they grow, and on which they live. Still, for farmers in North Korea, survival is a little easier than it is for workers in the blighted factory towns where unemployed survivors of the Great Famine still live by stripping the ruins of copper wire. Just the same, one suspects that the farmers know what’s good for them.  Most likely, they stay away from the fence, keep their eyes on the soil, and never mention it. [...]

]]> By: OneFreeKorea » Mysterious Pits in a North Korean Field, 39.944 N, 125.471 E : Image Analysts Wanted http://freekorea.us/2007/02/10/ghost-city-3975n-12631e/comment-page-1/#comment-17290 OneFreeKorea » Mysterious Pits in a North Korean Field, 39.944 N, 125.471 E : Image Analysts Wanted Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:42:19 +0000 http://freekorea.us/?p=6467#comment-17290 [...] Reader “kdehead” dropped a comment on another post below, with a link to a Google Earth image of a field near of the “ghost cities” I’d described in this post.  Here is part of the image he links (click for full size): [...] [...] Reader “kdehead” dropped a comment on another post below, with a link to a Google Earth image of a field near of the “ghost cities” I’d described in this post.  Here is part of the image he links (click for full size): [...]

]]> By: Joshua http://freekorea.us/2007/02/10/ghost-city-3975n-12631e/comment-page-1/#comment-17222 Joshua Tue, 13 Feb 2007 15:39:50 +0000 http://freekorea.us/?p=6467#comment-17222 Yes. I think the telling part is the apparent breakdown of much of the industry and the apparently vacant buildings along the main drag. The town appears to be in the advanced stages of being stripped of everything salvageable. About 25 miles south of there, another factory is still churning out smoke. The ones in these towns look like stripped out hulks. You have to wonder what those people are living on. Yes. I think the telling part is the apparent breakdown of much of the industry and the apparently vacant buildings along the main drag. The town appears to be in the advanced stages of being stripped of everything salvageable. About 25 miles south of there, another factory is still churning out smoke. The ones in these towns look like stripped out hulks.

You have to wonder what those people are living on.

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