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	<title>Comments on: &#8216;Kim Jong Bill&#8217; Richardson and Camp 22</title>
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		<title>By: Barack Obama Criticizes Handling of North Korean Nuclear Issue</title>
		<link>http://freekorea.us/2007/04/13/kim-jong-bill-richardson-and-camp-22/comment-page-1/#comment-57783</link>
		<dc:creator>Barack Obama Criticizes Handling of North Korean Nuclear Issue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 23:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] His North Korea policies could get even worse if Kim Jong-Bill Richardson is appointed his Secretary of State.Â  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] His North Korea policies could get even worse if Kim Jong-Bill Richardson is appointed his Secretary of State.Â  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: OneFreeKorea &#187; Impervious to Evidence: State&#8217;s Appeasement Express Arrives at the Koryo Hotel</title>
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		<dc:creator>OneFreeKorea &#187; Impervious to Evidence: State&#8217;s Appeasement Express Arrives at the Koryo Hotel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] But thisÂ reaction is either ignorant of the facts orÂ intellectually dishonest.Â  IfÂ conservatives intend to raise issues like inspection, verification, and human rights under a Democratic administration &#8212; maybe with Kim Jong Bill as Secretary of State &#8211;Â they should at least establishÂ some non-partisanÂ consistency by making equally fair criticisms of Bush today. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] But thisÂ reaction is either ignorant of the facts orÂ intellectually dishonest.Â  IfÂ conservatives intend to raise issues like inspection, verification, and human rights under a Democratic administration &#8212; maybe with Kim Jong Bill as Secretary of State &#8211;Â they should at least establishÂ some non-partisanÂ consistency by making equally fair criticisms of Bush today. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: OneFreeKorea &#187; Casualties of Banalities: The Arrest and Coming Death of Yoo Sang-Joon</title>
		<link>http://freekorea.us/2007/04/13/kim-jong-bill-richardson-and-camp-22/comment-page-1/#comment-55626</link>
		<dc:creator>OneFreeKorea &#187; Casualties of Banalities: The Arrest and Coming Death of Yoo Sang-Joon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 20:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Republicans and the Bush Administration made some noise about human rights for a few years and then sold out the North Korean people for a few good headlines.Â  The Democrats, still silent after a year in power, haveÂ adoptedÂ a &#8220;three monkeys&#8221; approach so as not to disturb the Sisyphean purchase of more lies from Kim Jong Il.Â  Witness &#8220;Kim Jong Bill&#8221; Richardson&#8217;s use of his photo-ops with the North Koreans to try to boost his third-tier presidential campaign (which is really a campaign to become Secretary of State).Â  I doubt he &#8212; or Bush&#8217;s mouthpiece, Chris Hill &#8212; will ever bother to mention the place where Mr. Yoo&#8217;s life may well end, along with tens of thousands of men, women, and children before him.Â  Those caught are detained in special jails, then escorted under armed guard across one of the bridges linking China to North Korea.Â  Horrifying scenes have been witnessed even here. Chinese soldiers have told their relatives of watching, nauseated, as the North Koreans force thick wire through the hands of the prisoners or under their collarbones, yoking them like animals to the slaughter. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Republicans and the Bush Administration made some noise about human rights for a few years and then sold out the North Korean people for a few good headlines.Â  The Democrats, still silent after a year in power, haveÂ adoptedÂ a &#8220;three monkeys&#8221; approach so as not to disturb the Sisyphean purchase of more lies from Kim Jong Il.Â  Witness &#8220;Kim Jong Bill&#8221; Richardson&#8217;s use of his photo-ops with the North Koreans to try to boost his third-tier presidential campaign (which is really a campaign to become Secretary of State).Â  I doubt he &#8212; or Bush&#8217;s mouthpiece, Chris Hill &#8212; will ever bother to mention the place where Mr. Yoo&#8217;s life may well end, along with tens of thousands of men, women, and children before him.Â  Those caught are detained in special jails, then escorted under armed guard across one of the bridges linking China to North Korea.Â  Horrifying scenes have been witnessed even here. Chinese soldiers have told their relatives of watching, nauseated, as the North Koreans force thick wire through the hands of the prisoners or under their collarbones, yoking them like animals to the slaughter. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Syria-North Korea Connection Scenarios at ROK Drop</title>
		<link>http://freekorea.us/2007/04/13/kim-jong-bill-richardson-and-camp-22/comment-page-1/#comment-54785</link>
		<dc:creator>Syria-North Korea Connection Scenarios at ROK Drop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 21:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] To echo Joshua, where is Kim Jong-Bill when you need him? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] To echo Joshua, where is Kim Jong-Bill when you need him? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: OneFreeKorea &#187; Times of London: Israelis Seized N. Korean &#8216;Nuclear Material&#8217; in Syria</title>
		<link>http://freekorea.us/2007/04/13/kim-jong-bill-richardson-and-camp-22/comment-page-1/#comment-54712</link>
		<dc:creator>OneFreeKorea &#187; Times of London: Israelis Seized N. Korean &#8216;Nuclear Material&#8217; in Syria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 03:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Personally, I blame Bill Richardson. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Joshua</title>
		<link>http://freekorea.us/2007/04/13/kim-jong-bill-richardson-and-camp-22/comment-page-1/#comment-54700</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 01:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill Richardson has a day job.  He&#039;s not a diplomat.  It&#039;s entirely up to him to choose his friends.  He chose genocidal tyrants.  He makes his embrace of them public.  He trades on it.  It seems fair to ask why, and what good it&#039;s doing us.  

I posit that Bill Richardson is marketing this &quot;friendship&quot; to voters, trading on the embrace of mass murderers to burnish his foreign policy credentials.  Otherwise, he&#039;d just be the governor of a small, remote, economically unsuccessful state.  

Several months ago, the &quot;americaforrichardson&quot; bloggers promised to contact their candidate to find out whether he has ever brought up the worst death camp this planet has seen since 1945, with the possible exception of Tuol Sleng.  That was months ago, yet not a word from them.  

Not that I stopped there.  I called Bill Richardson&#039;s press secretary to ask him myself.  His name is Gilbert Gallegos, and his number is (505) 412-2644.  I got an answering machine, so I left a number.  No response.  So I don&#039;t think I&#039;m out of line in inferring that maybe Bill Richardson either has no idea what Camp 22 is, or doesn&#039;t care about the people dying there as much as he cares about spoiling his presidential campaign by letting principle get in the way.  Whatever the reason, he isn&#039;t talking about it.  But since I&#039;ve published the number for you and every other reader of this blog with the desire to dial it, by all means prove me wrong.  If you can get the answers that Bill Richardson refuses to give me, I look forward to hearing them.

For a few years, Richardson might be excused for not bringing up the worst place on earth with its proprietors.  Still, let&#039;s do what you seem to expect and make the absolutely unjustified and unproven assumption that he has.  If that has done no good for more than a decade, Gov. Richardson has acquired a duty to demand answers in public.  I predict he&#039;ll flunk it, but the opportunity is always there.

Maybe the next time his hosts trot him out to the deck of the Pueblo as the cameras churn, he might interrupt the process of making a propaganda laughingstock of himself by asking, just once, for Kim Jong Il to shut down Camp 22.  

Yes, this could kill the mood and lead to some uncomfortable silence.  It might give offense to his hosts.  But if we can&#039;t reach agreement on a point as fundamental as not killing kids in gas chambers, just how productive a relationship does Bill Richardson really think he&#039;s building?  How many decades must pass, and how many more men, women, and children will be murdered in that hell on earth before Bill Richardson thinks the time has finally come to so much as mention it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Richardson has a day job.  He&#8217;s not a diplomat.  It&#8217;s entirely up to him to choose his friends.  He chose genocidal tyrants.  He makes his embrace of them public.  He trades on it.  It seems fair to ask why, and what good it&#8217;s doing us.  </p>
<p>I posit that Bill Richardson is marketing this &#8220;friendship&#8221; to voters, trading on the embrace of mass murderers to burnish his foreign policy credentials.  Otherwise, he&#8217;d just be the governor of a small, remote, economically unsuccessful state.  </p>
<p>Several months ago, the &#8220;americaforrichardson&#8221; bloggers promised to contact their candidate to find out whether he has ever brought up the worst death camp this planet has seen since 1945, with the possible exception of Tuol Sleng.  That was months ago, yet not a word from them.  </p>
<p>Not that I stopped there.  I called Bill Richardson&#8217;s press secretary to ask him myself.  His name is Gilbert Gallegos, and his number is (505) 412-2644.  I got an answering machine, so I left a number.  No response.  So I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m out of line in inferring that maybe Bill Richardson either has no idea what Camp 22 is, or doesn&#8217;t care about the people dying there as much as he cares about spoiling his presidential campaign by letting principle get in the way.  Whatever the reason, he isn&#8217;t talking about it.  But since I&#8217;ve published the number for you and every other reader of this blog with the desire to dial it, by all means prove me wrong.  If you can get the answers that Bill Richardson refuses to give me, I look forward to hearing them.</p>
<p>For a few years, Richardson might be excused for not bringing up the worst place on earth with its proprietors.  Still, let&#8217;s do what you seem to expect and make the absolutely unjustified and unproven assumption that he has.  If that has done no good for more than a decade, Gov. Richardson has acquired a duty to demand answers in public.  I predict he&#8217;ll flunk it, but the opportunity is always there.</p>
<p>Maybe the next time his hosts trot him out to the deck of the Pueblo as the cameras churn, he might interrupt the process of making a propaganda laughingstock of himself by asking, just once, for Kim Jong Il to shut down Camp 22.  </p>
<p>Yes, this could kill the mood and lead to some uncomfortable silence.  It might give offense to his hosts.  But if we can&#8217;t reach agreement on a point as fundamental as not killing kids in gas chambers, just how productive a relationship does Bill Richardson really think he&#8217;s building?  How many decades must pass, and how many more men, women, and children will be murdered in that hell on earth before Bill Richardson thinks the time has finally come to so much as mention it?</p>
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		<title>By: Calvin</title>
		<link>http://freekorea.us/2007/04/13/kim-jong-bill-richardson-and-camp-22/comment-page-1/#comment-54674</link>
		<dc:creator>Calvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel that it&#039;s pertinent to mention something here: it took Bill Richardson much of the 1990s to get those soldier remains back, and you have shown no evidence that he has not talked to North Korea about the concentration camps. Aside from that, it&#039;s not always up to an ambassador or a diplomat to decide what to talk about; when he went to North Korea to discuss proliferation and the retrieval of soldier remains, it was because someone in the Bush and Clinton administrations sent him there to do that. He was probably not even allowed to mention Camp 22 for fear of antagonizing a dictator who actually IS insane and actually HAS weapons of mass destruction. I mean, think about it, how is he supposed to reach a goal of preventing nuclear proliferation with a country while simultaneously telling them to shut down a network of concentration camps, about which very little is actually known?

That&#039;s where I must criticize you. Kencamp&#039;s actions, however, were fairly immature and uncalled for, and that&#039;s what I think people should be upset about in this particular blog; not what Bill was able or unable to accomplish with an authoritarian regime led by a wildly unstable man.


While I am a supporter of Bill Richardson (thusfar, I haven&#039;t researched other platforms very thoroughly yet), I do realize that this counts as a sort of hole in his record, and I intend to ask him about Camp 22. If I am able to learn anything, I&#039;ll be sure to let you know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel that it&#8217;s pertinent to mention something here: it took Bill Richardson much of the 1990s to get those soldier remains back, and you have shown no evidence that he has not talked to North Korea about the concentration camps. Aside from that, it&#8217;s not always up to an ambassador or a diplomat to decide what to talk about; when he went to North Korea to discuss proliferation and the retrieval of soldier remains, it was because someone in the Bush and Clinton administrations sent him there to do that. He was probably not even allowed to mention Camp 22 for fear of antagonizing a dictator who actually IS insane and actually HAS weapons of mass destruction. I mean, think about it, how is he supposed to reach a goal of preventing nuclear proliferation with a country while simultaneously telling them to shut down a network of concentration camps, about which very little is actually known?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s where I must criticize you. Kencamp&#8217;s actions, however, were fairly immature and uncalled for, and that&#8217;s what I think people should be upset about in this particular blog; not what Bill was able or unable to accomplish with an authoritarian regime led by a wildly unstable man.</p>
<p>While I am a supporter of Bill Richardson (thusfar, I haven&#8217;t researched other platforms very thoroughly yet), I do realize that this counts as a sort of hole in his record, and I intend to ask him about Camp 22. If I am able to learn anything, I&#8217;ll be sure to let you know.</p>
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		<title>By: Richardson</title>
		<link>http://freekorea.us/2007/04/13/kim-jong-bill-richardson-and-camp-22/comment-page-1/#comment-53408</link>
		<dc:creator>Richardson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 11:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill Richardson also had absolutely nothing to do with recent nuke-related deals, despite his claiming to have a hand in them. Itâ€™s nice that he helped get some service member remains home, but that is a separate issue, and the bottom line is that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dprkstudies.org/2007/06/22/bill-richardson-has-al-gore-disease-but-worse-part-2/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bill Richardson is a liar&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Richardson also had absolutely nothing to do with recent nuke-related deals, despite his claiming to have a hand in them. Itâ€™s nice that he helped get some service member remains home, but that is a separate issue, and the bottom line is that <a href="http://www.dprkstudies.org/2007/06/22/bill-richardson-has-al-gore-disease-but-worse-part-2/" rel="nofollow">Bill Richardson is a liar</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua</title>
		<link>http://freekorea.us/2007/04/13/kim-jong-bill-richardson-and-camp-22/comment-page-1/#comment-53369</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 00:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, you mischaracterized my argument, which is flat-out dishonest. I didn&#039;t criticize Richardson for bringing home remains. I criticized him for giving the world&#039;s most oppressive regime -- one that&#039;s operating concentration camps comparable to Dachau, Mauthausen, and Tuol Sleng and starving millions of its people -- a complete free pass on human rights. So if you really did read the post, you&#039;re just an ordinary liar.
&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;There is a ton of places where human rights abuses have have happened.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Then &lt;a href=&quot;http://freekorea.us/2007/02/18/holocaust-now-looking-down-into-hell-at-camp-22/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&#039;s something else you obviously did not read&lt;/a&gt;. Please name one place -- much less &quot;a ton -- where anything on this scale has happened, to this degree of depravity since the Year Zero of the Khmer Rouge, and before that since the end of Nazi Germany. What would history say about a politician who marketed himself based on his warm relationship with Pol Pot or Hitler? Leave aside that Richardson&#039;s claim of credit for this diplomacy is mostly fraudulent.Â  Bill Richardson&#039;s defenders will eventually be glad for that.

By the way, let us know if you ever find that six-fingered man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, you mischaracterized my argument, which is flat-out dishonest. I didn&#8217;t criticize Richardson for bringing home remains. I criticized him for giving the world&#8217;s most oppressive regime &#8212; one that&#8217;s operating concentration camps comparable to Dachau, Mauthausen, and Tuol Sleng and starving millions of its people &#8212; a complete free pass on human rights. So if you really did read the post, you&#8217;re just an ordinary liar.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;There is a ton of places where human rights abuses have have happened.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Then <a href="http://freekorea.us/2007/02/18/holocaust-now-looking-down-into-hell-at-camp-22/" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow">here&#8217;s something else you obviously did not read</a>. Please name one place &#8212; much less &#8220;a ton &#8212; where anything on this scale has happened, to this degree of depravity since the Year Zero of the Khmer Rouge, and before that since the end of Nazi Germany. What would history say about a politician who marketed himself based on his warm relationship with Pol Pot or Hitler? Leave aside that Richardson&#8217;s claim of credit for this diplomacy is mostly fraudulent.Â  Bill Richardson&#8217;s defenders will eventually be glad for that.</p>
<p>By the way, let us know if you ever find that six-fingered man.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Montoya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Montoya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 18:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes I did read what you said. There is a ton of places where human rights abuses have have happened. The DPRK will use anything for propaganda as well. They did when Madaline Albright visted as well. The country is a propaganda state that spins everything in their favor. As an American and a vet having served in the RoK I am glad to see that Gov. Richardon did get the bodies back of our fallen soliders and returned them home. When you look across the DMZ at night and realize the DPRK soliders use fire at night to stay warm you know something is wrong. But to accuse him of not using his influence to shut down a political prisioner camp? And honestly knowing Gov. Richardson I would not be suprised if he talked about the nuke issue and had some influnence in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes I did read what you said. There is a ton of places where human rights abuses have have happened. The DPRK will use anything for propaganda as well. They did when Madaline Albright visted as well. The country is a propaganda state that spins everything in their favor. As an American and a vet having served in the RoK I am glad to see that Gov. Richardon did get the bodies back of our fallen soliders and returned them home. When you look across the DMZ at night and realize the DPRK soliders use fire at night to stay warm you know something is wrong. But to accuse him of not using his influence to shut down a political prisioner camp? And honestly knowing Gov. Richardson I would not be suprised if he talked about the nuke issue and had some influnence in it.</p>
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