Comments on: Charles J. Hanley Hunts for New Atrocities http://freekorea.us/2007/06/10/charles-hanley-hunts-for-new-atrocities/ Tue, 22 May 2012 21:47:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: OneFreeKorea » History, Through Charles Hanley’s Soda Straw http://freekorea.us/2007/06/10/charles-hanley-hunts-for-new-atrocities/comment-page-1/#comment-58344 OneFreeKorea » History, Through Charles Hanley’s Soda Straw Wed, 09 Jul 2008 11:22:01 +0000 http://freekorea.us/2007/06/10/charles-hanley-hunts-for-new-atrocities/#comment-58344 [...] Also, you would think that some journalistic rigor should have some relationship to one’s journalistic reputation.  Hanley’s past reporting has been liberally seeded with half-truths and distortions and based on questionable sources; thus, I must approach his reports with a certain evidentiary trepidation, even especially when I know that it may contain some unquantifiable Truth Content.  Case in point: in his latest report, Hanley’s “sources” include North Korean “journalism,” reports from their Stalinist camp-follower stooges, and estimates from the Half-Truth-and-Eternal-Polarization Committees set up and staffed by a certain former human rights lawyer with a strikingly selective interest in human rights.  Another is Hanley’s demonstrably false attribution of the Taejon Massacre to the South Koreans: They took pictures in July 1950 at the slaughter of dozens of men at one huge killing field outside the central city of Daejeon. Between 3,000 and 7,000 South Koreans are believed to have been shot there by their own military and police, and dumped into mass graves, said Kim Dong-choon, the commission member overseeing the investigation of these government killings. [...] [...] Also, you would think that some journalistic rigor should have some relationship to one’s journalistic reputation.  Hanley’s past reporting has been liberally seeded with half-truths and distortions and based on questionable sources; thus, I must approach his reports with a certain evidentiary trepidation, even especially when I know that it may contain some unquantifiable Truth Content.  Case in point: in his latest report, Hanley’s “sources” include North Korean “journalism,” reports from their Stalinist camp-follower stooges, and estimates from the Half-Truth-and-Eternal-Polarization Committees set up and staffed by a certain former human rights lawyer with a strikingly selective interest in human rights.  Another is Hanley’s demonstrably false attribution of the Taejon Massacre to the South Koreans: They took pictures in July 1950 at the slaughter of dozens of men at one huge killing field outside the central city of Daejeon. Between 3,000 and 7,000 South Koreans are believed to have been shot there by their own military and police, and dumped into mass graves, said Kim Dong-choon, the commission member overseeing the investigation of these government killings. [...]

]]> By: usinkorea http://freekorea.us/2007/06/10/charles-hanley-hunts-for-new-atrocities/comment-page-1/#comment-56095 usinkorea Sun, 13 Jan 2008 21:58:12 +0000 http://freekorea.us/2007/06/10/charles-hanley-hunts-for-new-atrocities/#comment-56095 <blockquote cite="the iraq war will be another vietnam, and vietnam isn’t the exceptional case in our wars. most of the u.s.’s wars have been undertaken with questionable motives, it’s just that we won most of them."></blockquote> "Yeah, sure" he says as he turns to leave the room, the point of continuing the discussion clearly and completely lost.

“Yeah, sure” he says as he turns to leave the room, the point of continuing the discussion clearly and completely lost.

]]> By: Joshua http://freekorea.us/2007/06/10/charles-hanley-hunts-for-new-atrocities/comment-page-1/#comment-56092 Joshua Sat, 12 Jan 2008 22:00:01 +0000 http://freekorea.us/2007/06/10/charles-hanley-hunts-for-new-atrocities/#comment-56092 If we can't tell the enemy from the populace, it's because the enemy hides among the populace. Does that seem to be a morally significant fact to you? It must have been to the Iraqi people, who've joined sides with us and slaughtered most of the al Qaeda terrorists among them. If Hanley had anything right about Saddam's WMD, it was most likely a matter of even a stopped clock being right twice a day. Hanley's clock only points left, and sometimes it really is 9:45. If we can’t tell the enemy from the populace, it’s because the enemy hides among the populace. Does that seem to be a morally significant fact to you? It must have been to the Iraqi people, who’ve joined sides with us and slaughtered most of the al Qaeda terrorists among them.

If Hanley had anything right about Saddam’s WMD, it was most likely a matter of even a stopped clock being right twice a day. Hanley’s clock only points left, and sometimes it really is 9:45.

]]> By: andrew b. lee http://freekorea.us/2007/06/10/charles-hanley-hunts-for-new-atrocities/comment-page-1/#comment-56091 andrew b. lee Sat, 12 Jan 2008 21:02:37 +0000 http://freekorea.us/2007/06/10/charles-hanley-hunts-for-new-atrocities/#comment-56091 take a look at this article: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article12427.htm by the way, the scenario drawn out in the above article is one that is common in many other countries. wonder why the military budget is so high now? take a look at this article:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article12427.htm

by the way, the scenario drawn out in the above article is one that is common in many other countries. wonder why the military budget is so high now?

]]> By: andrew b. lee http://freekorea.us/2007/06/10/charles-hanley-hunts-for-new-atrocities/comment-page-1/#comment-56090 andrew b. lee Sat, 12 Jan 2008 21:00:29 +0000 http://freekorea.us/2007/06/10/charles-hanley-hunts-for-new-atrocities/#comment-56090 charles j. hanley was one of the few reporters who correctly reported that colin powell's allegations of saddam hussein's production and possession of wmd's rested on questionable evidence, if any at all. this was during the time when all the other "good" journalists were busy cheerleading for the government and the war. maybe the article he wrote about the flares has questionable perspective, but i think he has a lot more journalistic integrity than the majority of people out there. either way, for everytime the u.s. army fires harmless flares at iraqis there are 20 incidents of them shooting innocent people, because frankly, they can't tell the enemy apart from populace. the iraq war will be another vietnam, and vietnam isn't the exceptional case in our wars. most of the u.s.'s wars have been undertaken with questionable motives, it's just that we won most of them. charles j. hanley was one of the few reporters who correctly reported that colin powell’s allegations of saddam hussein’s production and possession of wmd’s rested on questionable evidence, if any at all.

this was during the time when all the other “good” journalists were busy cheerleading for the government and the war.

maybe the article he wrote about the flares has questionable perspective, but i think he has a lot more journalistic integrity than the majority of people out there. either way, for everytime the u.s. army fires harmless flares at iraqis there are 20 incidents of them shooting innocent people, because frankly, they can’t tell the enemy apart from populace.

the iraq war will be another vietnam, and vietnam isn’t the exceptional case in our wars. most of the u.s.’s wars have been undertaken with questionable motives, it’s just that we won most of them.

]]> By: OneFreeKorea » Impervious to Evidence: State’s Appeasement Express Arrives at the Koryo Hotel http://freekorea.us/2007/06/10/charles-hanley-hunts-for-new-atrocities/comment-page-1/#comment-55648 OneFreeKorea » Impervious to Evidence: State’s Appeasement Express Arrives at the Koryo Hotel Mon, 26 Nov 2007 13:18:38 +0000 http://freekorea.us/2007/06/10/charles-hanley-hunts-for-new-atrocities/#comment-55648 [...] If the thirst for justice isn’t necessarily Curley’s main motive, let’s bear in mind that the AP has a pecuniary interest at stake, and a big one.  To Curley, any conviction of Hussein for working with the terrorists would amount to a finding that the AP was infiltrated and that its Pulitzer was a terrorist-sponsored fraud.  Curley should find some consolation in the fact that fellow AP reporter and professional atrocity mongerer Charles Hanley never lost his Pulitzer after much of his reporting about No Gun Ri was questioned.  As of last June, Hanley was still filing bogus atrocity reports from Iraq.  [...] [...] If the thirst for justice isn’t necessarily Curley’s main motive, let’s bear in mind that the AP has a pecuniary interest at stake, and a big one.  To Curley, any conviction of Hussein for working with the terrorists would amount to a finding that the AP was infiltrated and that its Pulitzer was a terrorist-sponsored fraud.  Curley should find some consolation in the fact that fellow AP reporter and professional atrocity mongerer Charles Hanley never lost his Pulitzer after much of his reporting about No Gun Ri was questioned.  As of last June, Hanley was still filing bogus atrocity reports from Iraq.  [...]

]]> By: james o. clifford http://freekorea.us/2007/06/10/charles-hanley-hunts-for-new-atrocities/comment-page-1/#comment-50188 james o. clifford Sat, 21 Jul 2007 15:06:02 +0000 http://freekorea.us/2007/06/10/charles-hanley-hunts-for-new-atrocities/#comment-50188 For USINKOREA: I am a retired AP reporter who thinks the earlier snap definition of journalism is on target.Finding "the relevant facts" and having "the integrity to report them" are essential to good reporting. Sadly, during the last few decades of my career, I saw these qualities slip away. I have written a book in which the main character, a reporter, claims "truth is the sum of the facts." Hanley was right to report on No Gun Ri. I think, however, more should have been reported on infiltrators' use of refugee lines, which was certainly a "relevant fact." The book, "Philip's Code: No News is Good News -to a Killer," has several similar incidents in which the facts didn't add up to the truth. It's now on Amazon.com. For USINKOREA: I am a retired AP reporter who thinks the earlier snap definition of journalism is on target.Finding “the relevant facts” and having “the integrity to report them” are essential to good reporting. Sadly, during the last few decades of my career, I saw these qualities slip away. I have written a book in which the main character, a reporter, claims “truth is the sum of the facts.” Hanley was right to report on No Gun Ri. I think, however, more should have been reported on infiltrators’ use of refugee lines, which was certainly a “relevant fact.”
The book, “Philip’s Code: No News is Good News -to a Killer,” has several similar incidents in which the facts didn’t add up to the truth. It’s now on Amazon.com.

]]> By: North Korea Blog » Charles J. Hanley Hunts for New Atrocities http://freekorea.us/2007/06/10/charles-hanley-hunts-for-new-atrocities/comment-page-1/#comment-47678 North Korea Blog » Charles J. Hanley Hunts for New Atrocities Tue, 19 Jun 2007 20:48:24 +0000 http://freekorea.us/2007/06/10/charles-hanley-hunts-for-new-atrocities/#comment-47678 [...] Read more of this story… [...] [...] Read more of this story… [...]

]]> By: Joshua http://freekorea.us/2007/06/10/charles-hanley-hunts-for-new-atrocities/comment-page-1/#comment-46932 Joshua Wed, 13 Jun 2007 02:19:39 +0000 http://freekorea.us/2007/06/10/charles-hanley-hunts-for-new-atrocities/#comment-46932 Maybe your brother can correct his story, then. Maybe your brother can correct his story, then.

]]> By: Richardson http://freekorea.us/2007/06/10/charles-hanley-hunts-for-new-atrocities/comment-page-1/#comment-46931 Richardson Wed, 13 Jun 2007 01:26:33 +0000 http://freekorea.us/2007/06/10/charles-hanley-hunts-for-new-atrocities/#comment-46931 A hack in Iraq is still a hack. A hack in Iraq is still a hack.

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