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		<title>By: OneFreeKorea &#187; N. Korea Food Situation Continues to Worsen: Protests Continue in Chongjin; Food Prices Skyrocket; Kim Jong Il Asks China for &#8216;Massive&#8217; Food Aid</title>
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		<dc:creator>OneFreeKorea &#187; N. Korea Food Situation Continues to Worsen: Protests Continue in Chongjin; Food Prices Skyrocket; Kim Jong Il Asks China for &#8216;Massive&#8217; Food Aid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 15:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] We also learn more about the still-unresolved (and possibly growing) protest movement in the northeastern city of Chongjin, led by young women angry that the regime has banned them from trading. This is a long quote, but this is also a remarkable and historic ocurrence for North Korea, because the women have overcome their fears and the regime&#8217;s fear of suppressing them is rising: Even women passing by markets and women who did not participate in market activities joined the protests. Kang Myung-hee, a 47-year old female resident, said that â€œMiddle aged married women went to the market management office and expressed their anger. As soon as one woman shouted that â€˜give us rice,â€™ other women started shouting after her.â€ Han Jeong-aeh, a 38-year old resident, said that â€œDo you [government officials] only care about your own survival? Let us trade so that we can live on our own. Otherwise, provide us with food rations! The state should offer us at least either one,â€ which was originally claimed at the protests. â€œProbably, if we were men, police officers would have arrested us,â€ she went on to say, â€œHowever, because we were women, they could not take any physical actions to us and rather felt impatient.â€ Reportedly, police officers did not take any forceful actions after all. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] We also learn more about the still-unresolved (and possibly growing) protest movement in the northeastern city of Chongjin, led by young women angry that the regime has banned them from trading. This is a long quote, but this is also a remarkable and historic ocurrence for North Korea, because the women have overcome their fears and the regime&#8217;s fear of suppressing them is rising: Even women passing by markets and women who did not participate in market activities joined the protests. Kang Myung-hee, a 47-year old female resident, said that â€œMiddle aged married women went to the market management office and expressed their anger. As soon as one woman shouted that â€˜give us rice,â€™ other women started shouting after her.â€ Han Jeong-aeh, a 38-year old resident, said that â€œDo you [government officials] only care about your own survival? Let us trade so that we can live on our own. Otherwise, provide us with food rations! The state should offer us at least either one,â€ which was originally claimed at the protests. â€œProbably, if we were men, police officers would have arrested us,â€ she went on to say, â€œHowever, because we were women, they could not take any physical actions to us and rather felt impatient.â€ Reportedly, police officers did not take any forceful actions after all. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: OneFreeKorea &#187; More Food Shortages Reported in N. Korea&#8217;s Main Grain-Producing Regions; A Grim Mood in Pyongyang</title>
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		<dc:creator>OneFreeKorea &#187; More Food Shortages Reported in N. Korea&#8217;s Main Grain-Producing Regions; A Grim Mood in Pyongyang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 16:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] There is also more detail about those protests in Chongjin and Haeju over market restrictions. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] There is also more detail about those protests in Chongjin and Haeju over market restrictions. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://freekorea.us/2008/03/25/defector-newspaper-reports-food-protests-in-north-korea/comment-page-1/#comment-57126</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 08:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The situation seems to be getting worse, and only time will tell if it will escalate.I am starting a post about a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.reliefweb.int/rw/RWB.NSF/db900SID/SODA-7D34Y4?OpenDocument&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Good Friends report&lt;/a&gt; where the rationing has stopped since last March. This may be old news now, but according to the report, shortages are happening in a place called the Pyongsung market.

I did not know what the Pyongsung market was until I looked it up, and very little information was available about it. There may be a lot of info, but maybe my Google-foo is not up to snuff. However, &lt;a href=&quot;http://ifes.kyungnam.ac.kr/admin/upload_file/nk_brief/NK_Brief_070709.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this PDF&lt;/a&gt; discussed what Pyongsung is. According to that paper:

&lt;blockquote&gt;These days, most Chinese imports being brought into the country through Shinuiju are coming through Pyongsung before being sold to to various regions throughout the country. Traders from the east coast cities such as Hamheung, Wonsan, as well as Sariwon, Haeju, Nampo and other areas regularly travel to Pyongsung in order top stock up on goods.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Now if Pyongsung is the hub for goods for other major cities to get supplies and is hard to find food there, that is not a good sign for the regime if the elite cannot get their rations. Also, Relief Web reported:

&lt;blockquote&gt;As we enter March, more and more farm worker households in South Hwanghae Province are making ends meet by eating gruel instead of rice because of the acute lack of food. Strangely enough, the rice prices in this traditional bread basket region are higher than those in North Hwanghae Province, prompting even the rice merchants to exclaim, &quot;This is something we have never seen before in the republic.&quot; &lt;strong&gt;In most farm areas in South Hwanghae Province, including Baechun, Yeonahn, and Ahnak Counties, the households were given only 40kg of rice in November.&lt;/strong&gt; A new year has come and new season has turned since then, but so far there is no news of additional food distribution.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;

The emphasis I did not get. Does this mean only 40kg of food was rationed to all of those counties to individual homes? If that is true, that is very, very bleak. Furthermore, there seems to be some flashback to the Great Leap Forward:

&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Because of problems with falsified food production reports in Uiju County in North Pyongan Province, inspections of local farm collectives by the military prosecutors&#039; office have begun.&lt;/strong&gt; The Daemun-ri Farm Collective had reported that it had attained the production goal, but the actual amount that came into the Grain Policy Division(Local Food Administration Unit; ) of the local army was a far cry from the reported amount. Ultimately, this discrepancy resulted in prosecutors combing through the production numbers of every single working group in the farm collective and discovered that, even in one working group, there existed tons of discrepancy between the reported and delivered food production amount. &lt;strong&gt;The army decided to expand its inspection efforts&lt;/strong&gt;, assuming that this is not an isolated incident. In response, one official said, &quot;How are you going to solve this problem with inspections? It&#039;s not a problem that has been around for one or two years. It&#039;s an old problem throughout the republic.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

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&lt;blockquote&gt;[...]&quot;this year is going to be a difficult time even for mid- and low-level officials,&quot; which demonstrates that North Korea&#039;s chronic food shortages have worsened and affect food rations even for government officials[...]&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So this says a lot if true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The situation seems to be getting worse, and only time will tell if it will escalate.I am starting a post about a <a href="http://www.reliefweb.int/rw/RWB.NSF/db900SID/SODA-7D34Y4?OpenDocument" rel="nofollow">Good Friends report</a> where the rationing has stopped since last March. This may be old news now, but according to the report, shortages are happening in a place called the Pyongsung market.</p>
<p>I did not know what the Pyongsung market was until I looked it up, and very little information was available about it. There may be a lot of info, but maybe my Google-foo is not up to snuff. However, <a href="http://ifes.kyungnam.ac.kr/admin/upload_file/nk_brief/NK_Brief_070709.pdf" rel="nofollow">this PDF</a> discussed what Pyongsung is. According to that paper:</p>
<blockquote><p>These days, most Chinese imports being brought into the country through Shinuiju are coming through Pyongsung before being sold to to various regions throughout the country. Traders from the east coast cities such as Hamheung, Wonsan, as well as Sariwon, Haeju, Nampo and other areas regularly travel to Pyongsung in order top stock up on goods.</p></blockquote>
<p>Now if Pyongsung is the hub for goods for other major cities to get supplies and is hard to find food there, that is not a good sign for the regime if the elite cannot get their rations. Also, Relief Web reported:</p>
<blockquote><p>As we enter March, more and more farm worker households in South Hwanghae Province are making ends meet by eating gruel instead of rice because of the acute lack of food. Strangely enough, the rice prices in this traditional bread basket region are higher than those in North Hwanghae Province, prompting even the rice merchants to exclaim, &#8220;This is something we have never seen before in the republic.&#8221; <strong>In most farm areas in South Hwanghae Province, including Baechun, Yeonahn, and Ahnak Counties, the households were given only 40kg of rice in November.</strong> A new year has come and new season has turned since then, but so far there is no news of additional food distribution.</p></blockquote>
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<p>The emphasis I did not get. Does this mean only 40kg of food was rationed to all of those counties to individual homes? If that is true, that is very, very bleak. Furthermore, there seems to be some flashback to the Great Leap Forward:</p>
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<blockquote><p><strong>Because of problems with falsified food production reports in Uiju County in North Pyongan Province, inspections of local farm collectives by the military prosecutors&#8217; office have begun.</strong> The Daemun-ri Farm Collective had reported that it had attained the production goal, but the actual amount that came into the Grain Policy Division(Local Food Administration Unit; ) of the local army was a far cry from the reported amount. Ultimately, this discrepancy resulted in prosecutors combing through the production numbers of every single working group in the farm collective and discovered that, even in one working group, there existed tons of discrepancy between the reported and delivered food production amount. <strong>The army decided to expand its inspection efforts</strong>, assuming that this is not an isolated incident. In response, one official said, &#8220;How are you going to solve this problem with inspections? It&#8217;s not a problem that has been around for one or two years. It&#8217;s an old problem throughout the republic.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>and</p>
<blockquote><p>[...]&#8220;this year is going to be a difficult time even for mid- and low-level officials,&#8221; which demonstrates that North Korea&#8217;s chronic food shortages have worsened and affect food rations even for government officials[...]</p></blockquote>
<p>So this says a lot if true.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua</title>
		<link>http://freekorea.us/2008/03/25/defector-newspaper-reports-food-protests-in-north-korea/comment-page-1/#comment-57120</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 00:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob is absolutely right, and some North Korean defectors confirmed it in a group interview I posted &lt;a href=&quot;http://freekorea.us/2004/12/14/group-interview-of-north-korean-defectors-2/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; several years ago.  Yes, I think most soldiers would obey orders to fire.  They&#039;re more likely to desert then mutiny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob is absolutely right, and some North Korean defectors confirmed it in a group interview I posted <a href="http://freekorea.us/2004/12/14/group-interview-of-north-korean-defectors-2/" rel="nofollow">here</a> several years ago.  Yes, I think most soldiers would obey orders to fire.  They&#8217;re more likely to desert then mutiny.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 20:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello James.  Yes, I absolutely believe a NK military unit would slaughter a town.  Especially if that military unit is from a distant province.  It&#039;s a common practice of Communist nations to use military units to destroy/subdue towns and provinces they don&#039;t originate from.  That way there&#039;s less apprehension to using violence on the rebelling town/province--they&#039;re not the military unit&#039;s &quot;people&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello James.  Yes, I absolutely believe a NK military unit would slaughter a town.  Especially if that military unit is from a distant province.  It&#8217;s a common practice of Communist nations to use military units to destroy/subdue towns and provinces they don&#8217;t originate from.  That way there&#8217;s less apprehension to using violence on the rebelling town/province&#8211;they&#8217;re not the military unit&#8217;s &#8220;people&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
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		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 16:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>interesting comment Rob as i&#039;ve been savoring/waiting for that CeauÅŸescu moment for KJI.  

do you think a military unit could slaughter an entire town/region without feeling any regret?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>interesting comment Rob as i&#8217;ve been savoring/waiting for that CeauÅŸescu moment for KJI.  </p>
<p>do you think a military unit could slaughter an entire town/region without feeling any regret?</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 16:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate to get my hopes up about NK&#039;s collapse, but these stories you&#039;ve been posting the past couple of months really give me optimism.  But then again, I must remind myself that KJI will stop at nothing to remain in power.  Wholesale slaughter of entire towns would not be out of the realm of possibility if it meant he could retain power.  If only the NK military would reject their fealty to him...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to get my hopes up about NK&#8217;s collapse, but these stories you&#8217;ve been posting the past couple of months really give me optimism.  But then again, I must remind myself that KJI will stop at nothing to remain in power.  Wholesale slaughter of entire towns would not be out of the realm of possibility if it meant he could retain power.  If only the NK military would reject their fealty to him&#8230;</p>
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