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The Six Two One Party Talks, or Masturbatory Diplomacy

[Update:  The White House accepts this stinker.  Remember what Chris Hill said last year?  ”We cannot have a situation where (North Korea) pretends to abandon their nuclear program and we pretend to believe them.”  That sure sounds like that Hill wants us to do.] 

So have you heard that Kim Jong Il will celebrate his removal from the list of state sponsors of terrorism … by firing off more missiles? 

U.S. military authorities have been closely watching the North Korean arm since spotting signs of lively activity at a missile launch site in North Korea, CNN reported Friday. Quoting two U.S. military officers, the channel reported satellite photos recently spotted personnel, vehicles and materials moving toward the Rodong missile base in Shinori, north of Pyongyang. Rodong-1 missiles with a range of 1,300 km capable of striking most of the Japanese islands are reportedly deployed at the Shinori site.  [Chosun Ilbo]

I’m at a loss for words.  North Korea throws an extortionate fit, even threatens to turn Seoul to “ashes” – all of which is clearly calculated to intimidate South Korean voters just before an election – and we reward them by declaring them not to be sponsors of terror.  (To be precise, the North Koreans aren’t sponsoring terrorism, they’re practicing terrorism.  There should be a separate list for nations that engage in this kind of direct, retail terrorism.  Naturally, our State Department overlooked that). 

[Afterthought:  We could always just add North Korea to this list.  Logically, it’s a better fit than listing North Korea as a mere “sponsor.”]

So terrorism works, and absurdly enough, it works well at getting terrorists removed from … a list of terrorists, because our Secretary of State and our chief negotiator are either too timid, too ambitious, or too incompetent to call terrorism by its name.  And we are not done.  

President Bush ran for reelection in 2004 by touting the advantages of six-party diplomacy with North Korea.  In practice, this worked with all of the harmonious coherence of a basket of ants, so we tried bilateral talks.  These also failed when North Korea conceded just enough to stall into the election season, and then stopped conceding, period.  So we are now reduced to making concessions, lifting our sanctions, giving up our remaining leverage, and writing the North Koreans’ declaration for them.  The North Koreans show up, we read their declaration aloud (the one they should have made last December), and they admit nothing and say, “Whatever.”  We are now the only party actively negotiating.  In just a year, we’ve gone from six parties to two to one.  That is known as ”masturbatory diplomacy.”

Also, the North Koreans don’t actually have to disarm.  They can keep stalling on giving up their existing nuclear weapons or fissile material, and it still isn’t clear whether they’ve acknowledged that they’ve agreed to disarm at all.

Some members of Congress will push back this time.  The Singapore Surrender will embolden a rebellion that was gathering anyway.  It will come from within the President’s own party, which makes this more a matter of embarrassing the Administration than of simple vote-counting.  What I can’t say is whether it will be enough to make a difference. 

Below the fold, I’ve pasted in a Condi Rice Q&A transcript in which she tries to feign toughness and skepticism.  She talks about verification, something none of her diplomacy with the North Koreans have even broached yet, and a part of the process that has no chance whatsoever of advancing before the Administration ends.  So read it for whatever it’s worth.

Now, as to the North Korean situation, we continue to work through the six-party process to try and achieve the goals of this second phase.  In that second phase, there are obligations on both sides, and the United States is absolutely prepared to undertake its obligations should the North Koreans fulfill their obligations.  But we are still in the process of trying to determine if the North Koreans are going to fulfill their obligations.  We are determined to have an outcome to the second phase that would have the North Koreans account for all of their nuclear programs, and that means their HEU program, their plutonium program, which, after all, is the one that has actually produced material, and their activities in nuclear proliferation.  Any document that we get, any declaration that we get, has to be verified and it has to be verifiable.  And we have to make certain that we have means to assess what the North Koreans tell us, and we have to have means to verify what the North Koreans tell us.

Now, you can’t verify overnight some of these complicated programs that the North Koreans have been engaged in.  But we have to be absolutely certain that we’ve got means to do it.  And by the way, it’s not just the United States.  It is all of the members of the six parties that have to be a part of this process of accounting for the North Korean programs and then verifying what we’ve been told and then finding ways to dismantle them.

The North Koreans, of course, also have obligations in terms of disabling the Yongbyon facilities, and so we are not yet at a point where we can make a judgment as to whether or not the North Koreans have met their obligations and we are therefore not at a point at which the United States can make a judgment as to whether or not it’s time to exercise our obligations.  But when we have made that judgment, we will be prepared to exercise the obligations that we’ve undertaken.  [Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, April 11, 2008]

Joo said,

April 15, 2008 @ 11:32 am

Verification can not be compromised. It must be sound, absolute and without fail. Condi’s statement sounds like a desperate last ‘gasp,’ if you will, of a fast-fading administration.

usinkorea said,

April 15, 2008 @ 1:23 pm

I am in need these days of looking for silver linings, and the one I continue to (ignorantly) clasp onto in all of this is —

—-the only way this remotely comes close to making sense is —
if the intel people have concluded firmly that North Korea is right around the corner from making a fast plunge toward full collapse — and —- our government has decided they can’t let that happen.

We’ve seen some non-government intel or other sources tell us recently that, in fact, North Korea is suffering more actutely than we’ve seen in a decade, and some have said collapse is coming.

And, it absolutely fits in the unimaginative, status quo mold that is government to quickly decide the worst possible thing that could happen is for North Korea to collapse. (Hey, we convinced everybody leaving Hussein in power in the early 1990s was the intelligent thing to do…)

But, even if all of this is true —- why am I clinging to hope?

Because, I haven’t heard about any big, fat ships brimming over the top with rice and other food stuffs leaving American (or Chinese) ports heading for North Korea.

Earlier on, I worried that the banking sanctions had been fully reversed or reversed enough to take the “tipping point pressure” off Pyongyang.

I don’t know if the North’s banking channel problems are still major or not.

But, enough time has passed since the Bush administration started its back-flipping to help Kim Jong Il “comply” with whatever and everything…..

…..and the North is still hurting……that I can guess that the banking sanctions being lifted or not is not going to be enough to bring Pyongyang back into any type of comfort zone.

Which means —- that seeing Hill and Bush and Rice take turns seeing how far up Kim Jong Il’s rectum they can force Uncle Sam’s head —– actually gives me hope — in this line of thinking.

Because if the Bush administration is willing to keep going further and further and further and further —- each time picking up critics and giving ammunition to enemies —- and slapping allies in the face like Japan and probably President Lee’s new administration as well….

—- then Pyongyang must still be hurting enough to cause fear of collapse.

So, until I see massive amounts of food aid being shipped into the North on the scale of the great famine ending period —- I’ll keep up hope that even our policy of appeasement will be done ineptly enough that it will not save the North from collapsing.

I will believe it when I see it | DPRK Forum said,

April 16, 2008 @ 3:03 am

[…] Hm, really? I will believe it when I see it. So far, all the promises for a declaration have all been for naught for a really long time, and if the DPRK does finally give some declaration, I would be very, very surprised. On the other hand, for a more detailed version of how the talks progressed to maybe, just maybe to get to this point can be found on OFK. After reading that, it seemed pretty clear to me Kim will still get what he wants in the end. Kim knows damn well nothing happened for nothing delivered in December, so why should he worry about delivering a declaration by the end of this month? What changed in the agreement to change his mind and be a good boy? In my opinion, nothing at all. The entire process has been a disaster just like the times before. The U.S. will start talks on removing North Korea from its list of state sponsors of terrorism once the communist nation provides the declaration, the Seoul-based newspaper cited the official as saying. The steps are part of an agreement reached by the two countries in talks in Singapore last week, it said. […]

OneFreeKorea » The Death of an Alliance, Part 68 said,

April 16, 2008 @ 4:26 pm

[…] The same, incidentally, is even more true of our most important Asian ally, Japan, which is also spitting out the teeth we’ve just kicked in by consigning Japanese abductees to rot in hell and absolving North Korea of the consequences for holding them.  To quote Colin Powell, this is not how allies deal with each other.  It tempts you to weigh those costs against the likely benefits.  With the North Koreans giving up essentially nothing and successfully splitting us from our friends, you have to wonder what vital U.S. interest the Administration’s current strategy is remotely likely to secure. […]

OneFreeKorea » North Korea’s Next Tantrum said,

August 14, 2008 @ 6:42 pm

[…] For reasons that aren’t completely clear to me, Bush has paused, for now, the granting of unconditional concessions, most significantly on de-listing North Korea as a state sponsor of terrorism.  Maybe he’s finally come to his senses, but my best guess is that he’s run out of political capital.  The key causes of that political bankruptcy were (a) the delayed revelations about the al-Kibar reactor and North Korea’s role in it, (b) the “Singapore Surrender” in which Hill and Rice agreed not to press for answers on uranium, proliferation, or actual nuclear weapons, and (c) what seemed very much like the imminent removal of North Korea from the list of state sponsors of terrorism and the lifting of other key sanctions, as early as yesterday.  Now the administration says that’s not going to happen … yet:     “Our requirement for moving forward on delisting is a rigorous verification regime and a verification protocol, and until we get there I think we’ve been clear that delisting can’t go forward,” said White House spokesman Tony Fratto. [AFP] “At this point it is reasonable to say that [August 11th] probably will come and go without that happening,’’ Dennis Wilder, the National Security Council director for Asia, told reporters in Beijing today. “We are in discussions with the North. We continue to try to work with them on this question of a robust verification regime.’’  [….] […]

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