Comments on: Seoul Invaded by “The Ugly Chinese” http://freekorea.us/2008/04/27/seoul-invaded-by-the-ugly-chinese/ Wed, 23 May 2012 01:27:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: A Small Rant « Daniel http://freekorea.us/2008/04/27/seoul-invaded-by-the-ugly-chinese/comment-page-1/#comment-58677 A Small Rant « Daniel Fri, 03 Oct 2008 04:53:25 +0000 http://freekorea.us/2008/04/27/seoul-invaded-by-the-ugly-chinese/#comment-58677 [...] Well my dear friends, I am wondering where the protests are now since we found out that Korea has been importing goods tainted with melamine and feeding it to their kids? The same substance that have been killing kids in China. I mean, wasn’t the beef protests due to Koreans wanting to protect their kids? This is on top of the stuff that happened in Seoul when some Chinese foreigners pretty much had a pseudo-riot earier on in the year as well as more recently when we heard about what happened with some Chinese fisherman murdering a Korean coast guard. Where are the massive protests where thousands are ripping Chinese flags and k-pop stars are singing anti-Chinese songs? I mean, it’s for the children! [...] [...] Well my dear friends, I am wondering where the protests are now since we found out that Korea has been importing goods tainted with melamine and feeding it to their kids? The same substance that have been killing kids in China. I mean, wasn’t the beef protests due to Koreans wanting to protect their kids? This is on top of the stuff that happened in Seoul when some Chinese foreigners pretty much had a pseudo-riot earier on in the year as well as more recently when we heard about what happened with some Chinese fisherman murdering a Korean coast guard. Where are the massive protests where thousands are ripping Chinese flags and k-pop stars are singing anti-Chinese songs? I mean, it’s for the children! [...]

]]> By: Jon http://freekorea.us/2008/04/27/seoul-invaded-by-the-ugly-chinese/comment-page-1/#comment-57834 Jon Fri, 02 May 2008 12:28:08 +0000 http://freekorea.us/2008/04/27/seoul-invaded-by-the-ugly-chinese/#comment-57834 Old traditions die hard. It seems the centuries-old, antiquated perception of China as the most "civilized" nation on earth (quite literally the "Middle Kingdom") have failed to be dislodged by the 21st century. What one has to realise is that such nationalism is not a recent phenomenon within the ideology of the Communist Party. One of its founding elements of legitimacy was the fact it had "reunited" China and abolished the "Unequal Treaties" thus ending the period of "National Humiliation" (can be seen as spanning the 19th century to the end of WW2). Thus not only have the Chinese maintained anti-Western sentiment continuously (possibly subconsciously in many instances) throughout the Communist period, they have also maintained and increasingly developed regional traditions vis-a-vis relations with bordering countries. Thus we see China maintaining the modern equivalents of her old vassal states: Burma, Nepal, North Korea, and attempts to do the same in Laos and possibly Vietnam. Thus it is only in one of these traditional vassals like South Korea that such events could occur as the Chinese (possibly with a degree of subconsciousness) become indignant at the prospect of a vassal state voicing such opposition to what they perceive as their rightful actions and the global supremacy of their country. Old traditions die hard. It seems the centuries-old, antiquated perception of China as the most “civilized” nation on earth (quite literally the “Middle Kingdom”) have failed to be dislodged by the 21st century. What one has to realise is that such nationalism is not a recent phenomenon within the ideology of the Communist Party. One of its founding elements of legitimacy was the fact it had “reunited” China and abolished the “Unequal Treaties” thus ending the period of “National Humiliation” (can be seen as spanning the 19th century to the end of WW2). Thus not only have the Chinese maintained anti-Western sentiment continuously (possibly subconsciously in many instances) throughout the Communist period, they have also maintained and increasingly developed regional traditions vis-a-vis relations with bordering countries. Thus we see China maintaining the modern equivalents of her old vassal states: Burma, Nepal, North Korea, and attempts to do the same in Laos and possibly Vietnam. Thus it is only in one of these traditional vassals like South Korea that such events could occur as the Chinese (possibly with a degree of subconsciousness) become indignant at the prospect of a vassal state voicing such opposition to what they perceive as their rightful actions and the global supremacy of their country.

]]> By: usinkorea http://freekorea.us/2008/04/27/seoul-invaded-by-the-ugly-chinese/comment-page-1/#comment-57833 usinkorea Fri, 02 May 2008 12:04:10 +0000 http://freekorea.us/2008/04/27/seoul-invaded-by-the-ugly-chinese/#comment-57833 That's a neat idea... Because Chinese university students and other citizens were insulted in other countries, it was only natural and right that they went into a neighboring country and attack its people.... I wonder if we could use this excuse for some fun road trips over to South Korea to hunt down Hanchongryong member and beat them senseless? That’s a neat idea…

Because Chinese university students and other citizens were insulted in other countries, it was only natural and right that they went into a neighboring country and attack its people….

I wonder if we could use this excuse for some fun road trips over to South Korea to hunt down Hanchongryong member and beat them senseless?

]]> By: Kevin http://freekorea.us/2008/04/27/seoul-invaded-by-the-ugly-chinese/comment-page-1/#comment-57832 Kevin Fri, 02 May 2008 07:44:11 +0000 http://freekorea.us/2008/04/27/seoul-invaded-by-the-ugly-chinese/#comment-57832 Party??? Sir, the only party going on and allowed in China is the Communist Party. The Chinese Communist Party disregards the fact that ordinary Chinese people have a right to self-determination, lest to say people that don't identify themselves as Chinese. The Chinese Communist Party denies ordinary Chinese people freedom of expression, press, and religion, etc. There is MUCH about the Chinese government that rightly needs to be condemned, but one would never hear about these things through the Chinese government controlled press. The ordinary Chinese people deserve much better and so does the rest of the world. Party??? Sir, the only party going on and allowed in China is the Communist Party. The Chinese Communist Party disregards the fact that ordinary Chinese people have a right to self-determination, lest to say people that don’t identify themselves as Chinese. The Chinese Communist Party denies ordinary Chinese people freedom of expression, press, and religion, etc. There is MUCH about the Chinese government that rightly needs to be condemned, but one would never hear about these things through the Chinese government controlled press. The ordinary Chinese people deserve much better and so does the rest of the world.

]]> By: AByStander http://freekorea.us/2008/04/27/seoul-invaded-by-the-ugly-chinese/comment-page-1/#comment-57831 AByStander Fri, 02 May 2008 04:28:19 +0000 http://freekorea.us/2008/04/27/seoul-invaded-by-the-ugly-chinese/#comment-57831 The Chinese want to have a big party and invite every country in the world to party with them. They are doing all they can to make sure that their guests will be well taken care of and have a good time at the party. But what they got were nasty protests by those who have their real interests as well as hidden interests. Those protestors, for whatever causes they claim to fight for, used all means they could find to discredit, accuse, condemn, insult China and to create bad publicity for the Olympics. As if the Olympics is only for the Chinese Communist Party, these protesters disregard the fact that the ordinary Chinese people do not want to see their country being treated that way, their flag burned, and their embassies vandalized. Seoul happened to be one of the places at the last leg of the torch relay. By now, the young Chinese students have had enough. They have nothing against the Koreans or intention to show disrespect for South Korea. They wanted to fight back, and fight back they did. My best wishes to China and the Beijing Olympics. The Chinese want to have a big party and invite every country in the world to party with them. They are doing all they can to make sure that their guests will be well taken care of and have a good time at the party. But what they got were nasty protests by those who have their real interests as well as hidden interests. Those protestors, for whatever causes they claim to fight for, used all means they could find to discredit, accuse, condemn, insult China and to create bad publicity for the Olympics. As if the Olympics is only for the Chinese Communist Party, these protesters disregard the fact that the ordinary Chinese people do not want to see their country being treated that way, their flag burned, and their embassies vandalized. Seoul happened to be one of the places at the last leg of the torch relay. By now, the young Chinese students have had enough. They have nothing against the Koreans or intention to show disrespect for South Korea. They wanted to fight back, and fight back they did. My best wishes to China and the Beijing Olympics.

]]> By: GI Korea http://freekorea.us/2008/04/27/seoul-invaded-by-the-ugly-chinese/comment-page-1/#comment-57828 GI Korea Thu, 01 May 2008 21:18:53 +0000 http://freekorea.us/2008/04/27/seoul-invaded-by-the-ugly-chinese/#comment-57828 The Hong Kong protesters were widely criticized at the time and were arrested by the Hong Kong authorities. Only a diplomatic deal between Seoul and China was able to get them released from Chinese jail. I'm sure a diplomatic deal can be work out with this issue but it is hard to work one out when the Chinese foreign ministry is defending and actually commending the violent student demonstrators and blaming Koreans for the violence. However, this is another area the C-borg commenters are using to justify the violent students behavior, point to others peoples bad behavior to justify your own. By the C-borg commenters doing that it just proves the point that the Chinese students were the ones in the wrong and should be held accountable for it. The Hong Kong protesters were widely criticized at the time and were arrested by the Hong Kong authorities. Only a diplomatic deal between Seoul and China was able to get them released from Chinese jail. I’m sure a diplomatic deal can be work out with this issue but it is hard to work one out when the Chinese foreign ministry is defending and actually commending the violent student demonstrators and blaming Koreans for the violence.

However, this is another area the C-borg commenters are using to justify the violent students behavior, point to others peoples bad behavior to justify your own. By the C-borg commenters doing that it just proves the point that the Chinese students were the ones in the wrong and should be held accountable for it.

]]> By: usinkorea http://freekorea.us/2008/04/27/seoul-invaded-by-the-ugly-chinese/comment-page-1/#comment-57822 usinkorea Thu, 01 May 2008 15:10:15 +0000 http://freekorea.us/2008/04/27/seoul-invaded-by-the-ugly-chinese/#comment-57822 Yes. For any Chinese or China-centered readers --- who have not spent much time in the K-blogsphere like at One Free Korea's blog -- if you had been around when the Korean union people went to Hong Kong, you'd have read a lot of expats bashing the protesters for their actions.... Yes. For any Chinese or China-centered readers — who have not spent much time in the K-blogsphere like at One Free Korea’s blog — if you had been around when the Korean union people went to Hong Kong, you’d have read a lot of expats bashing the protesters for their actions….

]]> By: Joshua http://freekorea.us/2008/04/27/seoul-invaded-by-the-ugly-chinese/comment-page-1/#comment-57821 Joshua Thu, 01 May 2008 14:53:06 +0000 http://freekorea.us/2008/04/27/seoul-invaded-by-the-ugly-chinese/#comment-57821 I don't see anyone here defending violent demonstrations by Koreans in or out of Korea. We're not taking sides in a tribal feud, and if that's all you see here, you're missing the point. Those Chinese demonstrators acted like complete thuggish assholes and should be prosecuted for it criminally -- and if convicted, sentenced to jail time. And for what it's worth, the Hong Kong authorities should have done the same damn thing to the Korean thugs there. I don’t see anyone here defending violent demonstrations by Koreans in or out of Korea. We’re not taking sides in a tribal feud, and if that’s all you see here, you’re missing the point. Those Chinese demonstrators acted like complete thuggish assholes and should be prosecuted for it criminally — and if convicted, sentenced to jail time. And for what it’s worth, the Hong Kong authorities should have done the same damn thing to the Korean thugs there.

]]> By: Rhesus http://freekorea.us/2008/04/27/seoul-invaded-by-the-ugly-chinese/comment-page-1/#comment-57820 Rhesus Thu, 01 May 2008 13:37:32 +0000 http://freekorea.us/2008/04/27/seoul-invaded-by-the-ugly-chinese/#comment-57820 This comment nicely underscores GI Korea's point. This comment nicely underscores GI Korea’s point.

]]> By: Chinese http://freekorea.us/2008/04/27/seoul-invaded-by-the-ugly-chinese/comment-page-1/#comment-57815 Chinese Thu, 01 May 2008 06:14:58 +0000 http://freekorea.us/2008/04/27/seoul-invaded-by-the-ugly-chinese/#comment-57815 How do you feel about Koreans rioting and attacking Chinese police in a Chinese city? Ugly Koreans? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl-gSKxCy2E The level of violence in the above video is simply unbelievable. How do you feel about Koreans rioting and attacking Chinese police in a Chinese city? Ugly Koreans?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl-gSKxCy2E

The level of violence in the above video is simply unbelievable.

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