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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 12:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A joke popular in East Germany was:
 A lady walks into a store and asks, &quot;Does this store have any fish?&quot;
 The clerk replies, &quot;No, this store doesn&#039;t have any meat. That store there doesn&#039;t have any fish.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A joke popular in East Germany was:<br />
 A lady walks into a store and asks, &#8220;Does this store have any fish?&#8221;<br />
 The clerk replies, &#8220;No, this store doesn&#8217;t have any meat. That store there doesn&#8217;t have any fish.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Stanton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua Stanton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 01:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrei Lankov loves to tell the bodyguard joke.  It was popular in the USSR.  Obviously, the Russians copied it from the Chinese.  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrei Lankov loves to tell the bodyguard joke.  It was popular in the USSR.  Obviously, the Russians copied it from the Chinese.  <img src='http://freekorea.us/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dan Ã“ C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Ã“ C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 01:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, NKeconWatch, just noticed something curious in that link you posted -- the joke which you&#039;ve titled &#039;black and white&#039; was, albeit in a slightly different form, quite popular in East Germany before the fall of communism (it was about &#039;red ink&#039; and a worker going to Siberia, etc.). Funny to think how the joke got from one place to the other. It was referenced in Slavoj Zizek&#039;s 2002 book &#039;welcome to the desert of the real&#039;, and it&#039;s from there that we got the name of our blog (explanation &lt;a href=&quot;http://themissingredink.wordpress.com/about/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, NKeconWatch, just noticed something curious in that link you posted &#8212; the joke which you&#8217;ve titled &#8216;black and white&#8217; was, albeit in a slightly different form, quite popular in East Germany before the fall of communism (it was about &#8216;red ink&#8217; and a worker going to Siberia, etc.). Funny to think how the joke got from one place to the other. It was referenced in Slavoj Zizek&#8217;s 2002 book &#8216;welcome to the desert of the real&#8217;, and it&#8217;s from there that we got the name of our blog (explanation <a href="http://themissingredink.wordpress.com/about/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: SRS</title>
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		<dc:creator>SRS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 21:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/laughing-at-the-contradictions-of-socialism-in-america/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The six dialectical contradictions of socialism in the USSR:&lt;/a&gt;

There is full employment â€” yet no one is working. 
No one is working â€” yet the factory quotas are fulfilled. 
The factory quotas are fulfilled â€” yet the stores have nothing to sell. 
The stores have nothing to sell â€” yet people got all the stuff at home. 
People got all the stuff at home â€” yet everyone is complaining. 
Everyone is complaining â€” yet the voting is always unanimous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/laughing-at-the-contradictions-of-socialism-in-america/" rel="nofollow">The six dialectical contradictions of socialism in the USSR:</a></p>
<p>There is full employment â€” yet no one is working.<br />
No one is working â€” yet the factory quotas are fulfilled.<br />
The factory quotas are fulfilled â€” yet the stores have nothing to sell.<br />
The stores have nothing to sell â€” yet people got all the stuff at home.<br />
People got all the stuff at home â€” yet everyone is complaining.<br />
Everyone is complaining â€” yet the voting is always unanimous.</p>
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		<title>By: Sonagi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sonagi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read the entire original People&#039;s Daily forum post in the first link of the GV post.  The writer used the Mao comparison to hook Chinese netizens into reading his piece praising Kim Jong-il and condemning the US, Japan, South Korea, and Lee Myung-bak.  I think the writer is either a North Korean proficient in Chinese or China&#039;s version of a South Korean leftist.  The GV contributing blogger cherry-picked comments that agreed with the OP and completely ignored all the dissenting comments.  He politely thanked me for taking the trouble to post and translate some opposing views. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read the entire original People&#8217;s Daily forum post in the first link of the GV post.  The writer used the Mao comparison to hook Chinese netizens into reading his piece praising Kim Jong-il and condemning the US, Japan, South Korea, and Lee Myung-bak.  I think the writer is either a North Korean proficient in Chinese or China&#8217;s version of a South Korean leftist.  The GV contributing blogger cherry-picked comments that agreed with the OP and completely ignored all the dissenting comments.  He politely thanked me for taking the trouble to post and translate some opposing views. <img src='http://freekorea.us/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: NKeconWatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>NKeconWatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did a post on North Korean/communist jokes a while back.  Not surprisingly, there seems to be a lot of overlap between countries:
http://www.nkeconwatch.com/2008/09/14/tickle-hammer-and-caligraphy-brush/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did a post on North Korean/communist jokes a while back.  Not surprisingly, there seems to be a lot of overlap between countries:<br />
<a href="http://www.nkeconwatch.com/2008/09/14/tickle-hammer-and-caligraphy-brush/" rel="nofollow">http://www.nkeconwatch.com/2008/09/14/tickle-hammer-and-caligraphy-brush/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Spelunker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spelunker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link!  The English translation by Daily NK is not very good.  I can do better:

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A Briton, a Frenchman, and a North Korean are chatting together.

The Briton: â€œI feel happiest when I return home on a winter night, wear me woolens and sit in front of the fireplace .â€

Frenchman: â€œYou Brits are too old fashioned. I feel happiest when I go on a Mediterranean vacation with a beautiful blonde and afterward we go our separate ways amicably.â€

North Korean: â€œThe happiest moment for me was one time in the middle of the night when somebody knocked on my door and after I opened it he said &quot;Kang Sung Mi, you are under arrest!&quot;   I said &quot;You&#039;ve got it wrong.  Kang Sung Mi is next door!â€ 


I thought this one was funnier and it needs no revision:

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At the museum, there is a painting in which Adam and Eve are holding an apple. 
A Briton says, â€œThey are Britons. The gentleman is sharing a delicious apple with a lady.â€ 
A Frenchman says, â€œThey must be French. They are walking around in the nude.â€
A North Korean says, â€œThey are North Korean. They have no clothes and little food but think of themselves as living in paradise.â€ 


Hey Sonagi, did you see my post at Global Voices Online where I totally blast a Chinese fenqing commenter out of the water?   For everybody else:  A comparison was made by some Chinese netizens who considered Kim Jong-il the equivalent of Mao Zedong.  
I posted my own retort that Kim Il-sung is much closer to Mao then Kim Jong-il could ever be and that any Chinese who thinks otherwise has their head up their arse.  Sonagi kindly pointed out through translation of more original comments that many other Chinese also disagree with the comparison.

However there was one patriotic Chinese who chose this opportunity to call the US, Russia and even India &quot;losers&quot; by saying how China fought battles and even took territory from Russia (Zhenbao Island).  In my specific reply to him, I invite him to join me in a Liaoning province birdwatching tour that discovers not all land near the northern shore of the Yalu belongs to China, and in fact some of it was conceded to none other than Kim Il Sung!

Good stuff, here it is:

http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/07/08/china-and-north-korea-kim-is-like-chair-mao/comment-page-2/#comments</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link!  The English translation by Daily NK is not very good.  I can do better:</p>
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<p>A Briton, a Frenchman, and a North Korean are chatting together.</p>
<p>The Briton: â€œI feel happiest when I return home on a winter night, wear me woolens and sit in front of the fireplace .â€</p>
<p>Frenchman: â€œYou Brits are too old fashioned. I feel happiest when I go on a Mediterranean vacation with a beautiful blonde and afterward we go our separate ways amicably.â€</p>
<p>North Korean: â€œThe happiest moment for me was one time in the middle of the night when somebody knocked on my door and after I opened it he said &#8220;Kang Sung Mi, you are under arrest!&#8221;   I said &#8220;You&#8217;ve got it wrong.  Kang Sung Mi is next door!â€ </p>
<p>I thought this one was funnier and it needs no revision:</p>
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<p>At the museum, there is a painting in which Adam and Eve are holding an apple.<br />
A Briton says, â€œThey are Britons. The gentleman is sharing a delicious apple with a lady.â€<br />
A Frenchman says, â€œThey must be French. They are walking around in the nude.â€<br />
A North Korean says, â€œThey are North Korean. They have no clothes and little food but think of themselves as living in paradise.â€ </p>
<p>Hey Sonagi, did you see my post at Global Voices Online where I totally blast a Chinese fenqing commenter out of the water?   For everybody else:  A comparison was made by some Chinese netizens who considered Kim Jong-il the equivalent of Mao Zedong.<br />
I posted my own retort that Kim Il-sung is much closer to Mao then Kim Jong-il could ever be and that any Chinese who thinks otherwise has their head up their arse.  Sonagi kindly pointed out through translation of more original comments that many other Chinese also disagree with the comparison.</p>
<p>However there was one patriotic Chinese who chose this opportunity to call the US, Russia and even India &#8220;losers&#8221; by saying how China fought battles and even took territory from Russia (Zhenbao Island).  In my specific reply to him, I invite him to join me in a Liaoning province birdwatching tour that discovers not all land near the northern shore of the Yalu belongs to China, and in fact some of it was conceded to none other than Kim Il Sung!</p>
<p>Good stuff, here it is:</p>
<p><a href="http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/07/08/china-and-north-korea-kim-is-like-chair-mao/comment-page-2/#comments" rel="nofollow">http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/07/08/china-and-north-korea-kim-is-like-chair-mao/comment-page-2/#comments</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sonagi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sonagi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Friendly suggestion:  Next time please do not use italics with Chinese text, as it is hard to read.  

Koreans on both sides of the DMZ are often the butt of Chinese nationality jokes.  None of the ones I&#039;ve read online provoked even a chuckle.  

&lt;em&gt;Itâ€™s both ironic and inevitable that the Chinese would make fun of North Korea for being tyrannical, backward, and poor â€” perhaps without knowing how much China has done to keep North Korea tyrannical, backward, and poor, to serve its most conniving interests. &lt;/em&gt;

Oh, the Chinese know.  They just don&#039;t make the connection, so they don&#039;t see the irony of ridiculing the sorry state they&#039;ve enabled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Friendly suggestion:  Next time please do not use italics with Chinese text, as it is hard to read.  </p>
<p>Koreans on both sides of the DMZ are often the butt of Chinese nationality jokes.  None of the ones I&#8217;ve read online provoked even a chuckle.  </p>
<p><em>Itâ€™s both ironic and inevitable that the Chinese would make fun of North Korea for being tyrannical, backward, and poor â€” perhaps without knowing how much China has done to keep North Korea tyrannical, backward, and poor, to serve its most conniving interests. </em></p>
<p>Oh, the Chinese know.  They just don&#8217;t make the connection, so they don&#8217;t see the irony of ridiculing the sorry state they&#8217;ve enabled.</p>
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