Comments on: Revealed: The First Published Images of Camp 12, Chongo-Ri, North Korea http://freekorea.us/2009/09/06/revealed-the-first-published-images-of-camp-12-chongo-ri-north-korea/ Wed, 23 May 2012 10:34:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Jose Luis http://freekorea.us/2009/09/06/revealed-the-first-published-images-of-camp-12-chongo-ri-north-korea/comment-page-1/#comment-291870 Jose Luis Fri, 04 Nov 2011 12:26:57 +0000 http://www.freekorea.us/2009/09/06/revealed-the-first-published-images-of-camp-12-chongo-ri-north-korea/#comment-291870 I have a good resolution picture of the camp, when you can see clearly the towers and the walls. http://www.mialbumdefotos.com/fotos/@32031/128099/ (sorry, I forgot the URL in my last comment) I have a good resolution picture of the camp, when you can see clearly the towers and the walls.

http://www.mialbumdefotos.com/fotos/@32031/128099/

(sorry, I forgot the URL in my last comment)

]]> By: Jose Luis http://freekorea.us/2009/09/06/revealed-the-first-published-images-of-camp-12-chongo-ri-north-korea/comment-page-1/#comment-291868 Jose Luis Fri, 04 Nov 2011 12:25:24 +0000 http://www.freekorea.us/2009/09/06/revealed-the-first-published-images-of-camp-12-chongo-ri-north-korea/#comment-291868 I have a good resolution picture of the camp, when you can see clearly the towers and the walls. I have a good resolution picture of the camp, when you can see clearly the towers and the walls.

]]> By: Donald http://freekorea.us/2009/09/06/revealed-the-first-published-images-of-camp-12-chongo-ri-north-korea/comment-page-1/#comment-69577 Donald Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:40:05 +0000 http://www.freekorea.us/2009/09/06/revealed-the-first-published-images-of-camp-12-chongo-ri-north-korea/#comment-69577 Unfortunately the Obama administration is ignoring human rights issues and prefers to advance the proliferation of the Barak image at the expense of moral obligations. Unfortunately the Obama administration is ignoring human rights issues and prefers to advance the proliferation of the Barak image at the expense of moral obligations.

]]> By: Dan Ó Clunaigh http://freekorea.us/2009/09/06/revealed-the-first-published-images-of-camp-12-chongo-ri-north-korea/comment-page-1/#comment-69052 Dan Ó Clunaigh Wed, 09 Sep 2009 17:35:54 +0000 http://www.freekorea.us/2009/09/06/revealed-the-first-published-images-of-camp-12-chongo-ri-north-korea/#comment-69052 <em>it wouldn’t kill us to flood North Korea with camera phones, fake travel passes, subversive propaganda, HDR’s, or even RPG-2’s</em> I agree wholeheartedly. Communication and the proliferation of alternative conceptual/ideological resources are fundamental tools in fighting totalitarian ideologies. In my opinion, they're much much more effective than killing people. it wouldn’t kill us to flood North Korea with camera phones, fake travel passes, subversive propaganda, HDR’s, or even RPG-2’s

I agree wholeheartedly. Communication and the proliferation of alternative conceptual/ideological resources are fundamental tools in fighting totalitarian ideologies. In my opinion, they’re much much more effective than killing people.

]]> By: Irene http://freekorea.us/2009/09/06/revealed-the-first-published-images-of-camp-12-chongo-ri-north-korea/comment-page-1/#comment-69044 Irene Tue, 08 Sep 2009 19:34:56 +0000 http://www.freekorea.us/2009/09/06/revealed-the-first-published-images-of-camp-12-chongo-ri-north-korea/#comment-69044 Well said, Jonathan...I totally agree with your comments as I know others do as well. Again, either we live and they are free, or we die and they remain slaves. I, too, cannot stand living alongside this. We must keep trying, utilizing all possible means, diplomacy, intelligence, military and otherwise. Well said, Jonathan…I totally agree with your comments as I know others do as well. Again, either we live and they are free, or we die and they remain slaves. I, too, cannot stand living alongside this.

We must keep trying, utilizing all possible means, diplomacy, intelligence, military and otherwise.

]]> By: Joshua http://freekorea.us/2009/09/06/revealed-the-first-published-images-of-camp-12-chongo-ri-north-korea/comment-page-1/#comment-69043 Joshua Tue, 08 Sep 2009 18:51:08 +0000 http://www.freekorea.us/2009/09/06/revealed-the-first-published-images-of-camp-12-chongo-ri-north-korea/#comment-69043 Jonathan, Speaking for myself, I'm not in this cause for the 72 virgins. I don't think the choice is or must be so simple. It wouldn't kill us to cut off the foreign money Kim Jong Il needs to sustain his regime, and for that matter, it wouldn't kill us to flood North Korea with camera phones, fake travel passes, subversive propaganda, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanitarian_daily_ration" rel="nofollow">HDR</a>'s, or even RPG-2's. The objective is to have as few people die as possible, isn't it? Jonathan, Speaking for myself, I’m not in this cause for the 72 virgins. I don’t think the choice is or must be so simple. It wouldn’t kill us to cut off the foreign money Kim Jong Il needs to sustain his regime, and for that matter, it wouldn’t kill us to flood North Korea with camera phones, fake travel passes, subversive propaganda, HDR‘s, or even RPG-2′s. The objective is to have as few people die as possible, isn’t it?

]]> By: Jonathan Gardner http://freekorea.us/2009/09/06/revealed-the-first-published-images-of-camp-12-chongo-ri-north-korea/comment-page-1/#comment-69042 Jonathan Gardner Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:54:47 +0000 http://www.freekorea.us/2009/09/06/revealed-the-first-published-images-of-camp-12-chongo-ri-north-korea/#comment-69042 We must stop this, now. We can no longer live in a world where people are enslaved and tortured and murdered in these death camps. The holocaust was supposed to be history, not the present day. Either we live and they are free, or we die and they remain slaves. I cannot stand living alongside this. We must stop this, now. We can no longer live in a world where people are enslaved and tortured and murdered in these death camps. The holocaust was supposed to be history, not the present day.

Either we live and they are free, or we die and they remain slaves. I cannot stand living alongside this.

]]> By: Joshua Stanton http://freekorea.us/2009/09/06/revealed-the-first-published-images-of-camp-12-chongo-ri-north-korea/comment-page-1/#comment-69038 Joshua Stanton Tue, 08 Sep 2009 02:56:04 +0000 http://www.freekorea.us/2009/09/06/revealed-the-first-published-images-of-camp-12-chongo-ri-north-korea/#comment-69038 Adam -- <a href="http://freekorea.us/camps/14-18" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow">Here</a>. Adam — Here.

]]> By: Adam Cathcart http://freekorea.us/2009/09/06/revealed-the-first-published-images-of-camp-12-chongo-ri-north-korea/comment-page-1/#comment-69037 Adam Cathcart Tue, 08 Sep 2009 01:34:54 +0000 http://www.freekorea.us/2009/09/06/revealed-the-first-published-images-of-camp-12-chongo-ri-north-korea/#comment-69037 Joshua, this brings to mind a <a href="http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Korea/KE12Dg01.html" rel="nofollow">new memoir by Kim Yong</a>, a North Korean defector, assisted by UC Santa Barbara professor Kim Su-young. The title is <em>Long Way Home</em>; published by Columbia University Press earlier this year. The One Free Korea search function appears to turn up nothing for the author, editor, or book title. I just ran across it today, so am not aware which specific camps Kim Yong was in, but thought you would be interested, or could direct me to the relevant post if one exists already. Your latest post is obviously impressive, and it's also good to know also that Kang Chol-hwan is still at work. As for the Korean-language Daily NK citation, did your wife happen to notice any discrepancies between the Korean article and the English translations? There are small things in the Chinese versions of the articles that differ (sometimes with significant implications) from the English ones. Many thanks! Joshua, this brings to mind a new memoir by Kim Yong, a North Korean defector, assisted by UC Santa Barbara professor Kim Su-young. The title is Long Way Home; published by Columbia University Press earlier this year. The One Free Korea search function appears to turn up nothing for the author, editor, or book title. I just ran across it today, so am not aware which specific camps Kim Yong was in, but thought you would be interested, or could direct me to the relevant post if one exists already.

Your latest post is obviously impressive, and it’s also good to know also that Kang Chol-hwan is still at work.

As for the Korean-language Daily NK citation, did your wife happen to notice any discrepancies between the Korean article and the English translations? There are small things in the Chinese versions of the articles that differ (sometimes with significant implications) from the English ones.

Many thanks!

]]> By: Dan Ó Clunaigh http://freekorea.us/2009/09/06/revealed-the-first-published-images-of-camp-12-chongo-ri-north-korea/comment-page-1/#comment-69036 Dan Ó Clunaigh Mon, 07 Sep 2009 20:52:13 +0000 http://www.freekorea.us/2009/09/06/revealed-the-first-published-images-of-camp-12-chongo-ri-north-korea/#comment-69036 An excellent post indeed. An excellent post indeed.

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