A Bus Bombing Even I Can Like
A car loaded with explosives blew up near a bus carrying members of Iran’s elite Revolutionary Guards in southeastern Iran, killing 18 of them, the state-run news agency reported today.
The car stopped in front of the bus near Zahedan, the capital of Sistan-Baluchestan Province, the official Islamic Republic News Agency reported. It called the attack a terrorist operation and said the car’s occupants fled on motorbikes seconds before the car exploded. [The Independent; ht Gateway Pundit]
The Al-Quds are not noncombatants. They’re thugs and terrorists. They are arming other thugs and terrorists who are killing our soldiers. They will not be missed. A swift passage to hell for the lot of them. I bet a few of these dropped on the Quds / Basij barracks would relieve the world of plenty more. It would mean more oxygen for the rest of us. Virgins, too.
Iran has transitioned from terror attacks to outright war against us. The choice now is between letting them get nukes and using force to stop them from getting nukes. If we’re at war — whether we choose to recognize it or not — I say have as much of that war in Iran as possible. I oppose, and have always opposed, invading either Iran or North Korea, but there’s no weapon in our arsenal I wouldn’t want used on Iran’s nuclear facilities to stop them from getting the bomb. In fact, Iran’s leaders have a long history of passive-aggressive behavior. An intense round of air strikes on political, economic, and military targets might persuade them that we’re serious about what we say. Had we done something like this with North Korea in 1993, we wouldn’t be showing them our castration scars today.
Of course, I’m not sure I’m persuaded we’re serious.
In fact, US leaders have a long history of passive-aggressive behavior
In certain cases, I’d agree, but are you suggesting moral equivalance between the governments of the United States and Iran?
Well I dont know how you define “moral equivalence”, but I see a lot of similarities
two democracies
two extremist leader
strong presence of the religion in the political sphere
there are a lot of differences of course but would you say that the Us Gov is morally good ? and that Iran is inherently Evil ? that will be too simple I guess but again that’s my point of view ..
excellent news. more please.
sidenote – is it possible that this is a sign of a U.S. covert war? possibly? might we see the war on Iran become an undeclared covert war – after all they are killing our forces in Iraq covertly.
To me this looks like it could be Sunni elements in Iraq retaliating for Iran’s support of the Shia. The conflict in Iraq could easily spill over into Iran, especially with both sides using terrorist tactics.
That’s what I love about the far left — you’re a never-ending source of amusing cognitive dissonance. I guess if you consider Iran a “democracy,” you’re willing to overlook those eligibilty requirements for candidates and suspicions of rampant fraud, such as the busing of regime thugs from polling place to polling place to cast multiple votes. At the same time, you declared American democracy dead on the date when 524 senile Floridians with catheter drips on their wheelchairs accidentally voted for Pat Buchanan, and the courts denied you the right to ventriloquize their votes into Gore’s column.
I take it you’re posting this from Tehran, then, because you speak with such obvious authority. Psst. I have your IP address, and I’m sending it to the Bureau for the Enforcement of Christian values! Quite the brave little dissident you must be, with your $59 a month high-speed DSL, fighting The Man!
And you suggest, perhaps, this as an alternative? Since when it is evil for Christians, Jews, or atheists to freely associate and engage in political activity?
which of course opens up the possibility of Shia retaliation on Sunni Saudi Arabia, should these Iranian bombings become more frequent.
kdehead…precisely! The threat of a disasterous middle east conflict is all too real. That is the problem I have with politicians, especially those running for president, advocating troop withdrawal without suggesting a plan for the calamity that could result. It is easy to say that the middle east would be more stable had the U.S. never invaded Iraq. There is no doubt some truth to that. But that ignores the reality that exists now. It is almost as if the democratic presidential candidates are willing to acknowlege that all hell would break loose if we left Iraq, but at least they wouldn’t have to take the blame…it would be Bush’s fault for a misguided war in the first place. Never mind the danger it could cause to American interests -even the American mainland – as long as the blame isn’t pinned on them.
Greetings from Teheran !!
I respect your oppinions eventhough your arguments are rather weak and I don”t get your arrogance when what I’am trying to do is only leaving a comment to one of your post … this was in no way meant as a provocation.
Also I don’t get what your christian friends, DPRK repression of religions and my IP address has to do with my comment but whatever ….
You should stick to blogging about DPRK because you’re much better at it !
Yeah. Your point is well taken. Other than employing thugs to beat protestors, arresting bloggers, murdering dissidents, supporting terrorists, threatening terror attacks, hanging homosexuals, repressing women, censoring newspapers, and massive electoral fraud, Iran is EXACTLY THE SAME as the United States.
Joshua,
As a Liberal Leftie, I respect your opinions because your arguments on this thread are based on clear facts and logical reasoning. I despise Bush and the Patriot Act, but I would never compare our government, its leaders, or our laws with truly despotic regimes like the one in Iran.
My question, Sonagi, is how many liberals like you and Virtual Wonderer still exist. The respect is mutual; I just wish I could count more than two of you.
A lot, Joshua. Most of my American colleagues in China leaned left but did not spew the sort of nonsense like Tristan’s comments. Living in China, we were clearly aware of Chinese laws and how they are and are not interpreted and enforced. I’d rather be a fat prisoner in Gitmo than a FLGer awaiting vivisection.
Polarized extremists in the non-mainstream media and the blogsphere are a noisy minority who are given way too much attention while the silent majority of Americans live, work, and play with their families and friends in their communities.
It seems that there are always bad losers on elections. Bush won in ’00 and ’04. Hey, it was close, but close doesn’t cut it. Many of those on the losing side just can’t accept that they lost. Though some of his supporters might wish it so, Bush has not turned the country into a theocracy nor really impinged on any of my freedoms. To be honest, he does not have the power to do so. He has said some stupid things, too, but nothing so far as denying an undeniable genocide or calling for the annihilation of any states. There is a great distance between “regime change” and annihilation.
I was a senior in high school when Clinton took office. I remember obnoxious Republicans painting Clinton as the anti-Christ. One of my friends won a Westinghouse award and was traveling to meet the president. One guy asked him how he could stomach shaking Clinton’s hand. And I remember people saying he might as well just fly the hammer and sickle after the health care reform effort started.
My point — there are idiots on both sides who will conveniently ignore reality and demonize those who disagree with them. In a world where 10 bits doesn’t provide enough options for all the hues and tones, there are some who insist on 1 bit judgments.
“tristan February 14, 2007 @ 4:00 pm
Greetings from Teheran !!”
greetings from the West tristan. the sooner you guys get rid of the Mullahs, the better. then we can get back to being strong allies.
While there are obvious differences in the makeup of the US and Iranian governments and their relationship to their respective civil societies, I think the ”we’re moral and they’re not” card played by US patriots is totally bankrupt.
If you look at the foreign policies of both countries, it would be hard to argue that one is more morally sound than the other. Especially in Iraq, where both have/are perpetuating violence to support their interests.
And as for a car bomb in North Korea in 1993? C’mon…
You completely misread my point about North Korea. I wasn’t advocating a car bombing, I was advocating blowing up their reactor with an air strike.
I guess I don’t have high expectations of logical processing from someone who sits behind a computer, accepting the protection of a free society, while comparing it to a theocracy that does things like this, this, this, and this.
Perhaps those things surprise you. That’s my charitable way of telling you that have no idea what the f*ck you’re talking about.
When you just one of those things happen in Kansas, we’ll talk. Till then, I think I speak for most of us here when I dismiss you as a char-broiled nutter with dissident envy.
“An intense round of air strikes on political, economic, and military targets might persuade them”
Very intelligent. I think you should stick to commentary on N.K.
What’s your suggestion? Let them have the bomb? Or let the Europeans keep talking to them (same thing)?
Josh
I never said that Iran is EXACTLY THE SAME as the United States far from that, i was just implying that theres similarities and differences and that it was too easy to say that the US is moral and Iran is Evil
Sonagi
Truly despotic regimes ? check out N.K. thats what I call a truly despotic regime
John trenchard
Getting rid of the Mullah and we will be allies ? Wait a minute..
Saudi Arabia is the strongest ally of the US in the Middle East right ?
It is far from being a democratic regime, it is ruled by the most extreme version of islamic law (Wahabism), it is financing international Jihad and has probably a world record in Human Rights violation.
From Teheran with love
@Death Ray and Tristan,
Nice strawman arguments. Nobody is proclaiming that the US government is “moral.” NK is a strong contender for being designated the most despotic regime on earth, but Iran belongs in the same category for its annihilation of the Bahais in the early 1980s, which included raping girls before executing them so they wouldn’t go to Heaven as virgins, and continued repression as mentioned in Joshua’s earlier post.